Playing ambisonic *.amb files in Max/MSP
Hello,
I have downloaded these:
- a VST plug-in called "B2Stereo" (from the B2X plug-ins suite) that decodes B-format to stereo and that you can load into [vst~ 4 2]
- a file called "TetraMicSample.amb"
Now how can I "play" the *.amb file ? I don't know anything about this format nor any VST *.amb player that can load into Max/MSP ...
Is the *.amb the right standard for storing B-format ?
Thanks for your help
-j
the .amb fileformat is really a Wave file with some custom GUIDs set
in the header (look up WAVE-EX) it's supposed to provide a channel-
mask for automated recognition of the content and routing/decoding
accordingly. WAVE-EX is a microsoft construct, which doesn't seem to
be parsed well (if at all) by max's sfplay~.
the .amb file-spec is an attempt by people from the sursound
community to create a standard for ambisonic bformat files.
there's really no need for that. you can rename the file .wav and use
a 4 channel sfplay~. it might complain about unrecognized header
stuff but shpould play the file just fine.
http://www.ambisonia.com/wiki/index.php/
Main_Page#File_Formats_for_Ambisonics
you can store b-format ambisdonic recordings in any file format you
wat, since it's really "normal" audio with phase dependencies between
the channels. we normally just use interleaved AIFFs.
hth
/*j
On 07.11.2007, at 12:23, julienbreval wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have downloaded these:
>
> - a VST plug-in called "B2Stereo" (from the B2X plug-ins suite)
> that decodes B-format to stereo and that you can load into [vst~ 4 2]
> - a file called "TetraMicSample.amb"
>
>
> Now how can I "play" the *.amb file ? I don't know anything about
> this format nor any VST *.amb player that can load into Max/MSP ...
>
> Is the *.amb the right standard for storing B-format ?
>
>
> Thanks for your help
> -j
>
Thanks for your anwser
After renaming the extension, Max can open the file in a sfplay~ or a buffer~, but it contains only silence (zeroes). Fortunately, it was possible to open it with Audacity and to export separated tracks that can then be loaded "normally" into Max objects ...
The only Mac program I know of that will open .amb files is TwistedWave
http://twistedwave.com/
This is actually due to a request by Daniel Courville, the guy who authored the B2X plugin suite. He also recommends De-Interleaver by Scott Wilson
http://scottwilson.ca/site/Software.html
I agree with Jasch, I'm not sure why they decided on WAVE-EX, it seems to be a dead end. It's not even well supported on Windows.
cheers,
Jim
Quote: voxish wrote on Thu, 08 November 2007 02:29
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> The only Mac program I know of that will open .amb files is TwistedWave
> http://twistedwave.com/
> This is actually due to a request by Daniel Courville, the guy who authored the B2X plugin suite. He also recommends De-Interleaver by Scott Wilson
> http://scottwilson.ca/site/Software.html
> I agree with Jasch, I'm not sure why they decided on WAVE-EX, it seems to be a dead end. It's not even well supported on Windows.
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Actually, Audacity can open *.amb files even without renaming the extension to *.wav; then a message box prints "importing wave EX file" :)
I use it for separating interleaved files (and only for this) as the De-Interleaver link is broken on the Scott Wilson page.