PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!
Hi guys im working on a patch that does kind of pseudo 12 tone composition. I at the beggining stages and i've hit a brick wall.
What im doing is using the RANDOM object (for now) to send number that are scaled up by fifty to a keyboard. This number is then used in eleven seperate sums that make sure the following 11 notes are all different from each other a la 12 tone music.
I ran into a problem with timing and i thought i could use pipe to trigger each of the other eleven events so that they hit the keyboard seperately and sound like a run. This is gonna take me forever to achieve as im gonna have about fiffty different posibilltie classes, the 11 notes preceding the first generated by the random object,can go through.
Is there any way i can control the tempo that the rest of the notes fire in? Say using a pitch bend wheel?
I tried using the ascii key on and off tutorial to send a tempo pulse through metro but then i thought i could send the beat to a counter with a range of 1-11. Each beat would open the coresponding gate, letting through the value of the first note generated by the value, then run this through the possiblity class thing. but i ran into a brick wall cos it didnt work.
anyone got any ideas? im sure there is a real simple way to get this done.
cheers, Morgan MY PATCH IS BELOw
An easier way to generate your semi-random notes would be to use [urn 12] it will send out random numbers up to the argument without repeating any, good for 12 tone composition like you are trying to do. You might also want to look at Karlheinz Essl's real-time composition library, it has loads of great abstractions that you might find useful.
lh
wow thats great the urn oject has really simplified what i was thinking about and now i can move ahead with thinking about different features i want to happen. Thanks so much dude!!
Also i saw the essl stuff but couldnt figure out how it works. I'm on tutorial 20 at the mo (i know i might be jumping ahead of myself), i just can't think what i would be putting into the four inputs that need input, i'm guessing the value at the bottom coresponds to notes on a keyboard....maybe i should e-mail the guy.
Thanks for you're help dude, much obliged
m
Which object from the RTC-lib have you been looking at? If I remember correctly they all come with pretty good help files. Keep plugging through the tutorials, they're well worth it. Good luck!
lh
Morgan, please, this is your third post :
Now it's time to learn NOT TO FUCKING SHOUT IN CAPS, nor to use bloody !!!!!!!, it is rude and won't help much.
When people here read you, they would rather like to head-butt you than to help you.
Thanks in advance
f.e
Wow, i've heard about people like you.
Well dude all's i can say is, lighten up. This is just a forum, capital letters aren't shouting, they're just capital letters.
Also you might want to check you aggressiveness in future, some younger, more naive kids, might get really upset and put off by the tone of you're reprimand, and that would be a real shame.
However if refraining from tapping on the caps key, or using to many exclamation points (i can't believe i'm actually typing this) is what it takes to keep you from commenting on or reading any threads I post in the future, then consider it done.
Thanks, Morgan
dont worry, using caps is absolutely okay, but you need to rethink the usage of randomness for composing music.
dont overrate randomness or you will regret it.
Quote:Wow, i've heard about people like you.
Well dude all's i can say is, lighten up. This is just a forum, capital letters aren't shouting, they're just capital letters.
God, no. This is not "just a forum", this is more as you'll see. You can browse this very forum about caps, you'll discover your the one who is not chillin' "dude".
Indeed, using capital letters IS shouting :
Quote:Also you might want to check you aggressiveness in future, some younger, more naive kids, might get really upset and put off by the tone of you're reprimand, and that would be a real shame.
My aggressiveness is proportional to yours. Only young naive kids or rude people use capital letters.
As you were not aware of how to write correctly on the internet, i understand my answer may have hurted you. Sorry for that.
So, let's not begin to troll together. I'd be happy to help as long as you don't scream.
Quote:However if refraining from tapping on the caps key, or using to many exclamation points (i can't believe i'm actually typing this) is what it takes to keep you from commenting on or reading any threads I post in the future, then consider it done.
That's very kind.
Quote:Thanks, Morgan
Thanks to you.
f.e
thanks roman,
i'm only using the patch i'm making to generate one piece of music. Im in a band
www.myspace.com/plugsmusic
and we're giving away a free "experimental" download every month. I've done 8 bit music, a couple of concrete pieces, and some glitch stuff, i just wanted to give a 12 tone sounding piece a go, for the month of june.
Thanks for the words of encouragement though.
cheers, Morgan
Yes, it's more than yet another forum.
Welcome on board, morgan.
J-F.
morgan quaintance wrote on Mon, 06 April 2009 12:03i just wanted to give a 12 tone sounding piece a go, for the month of june.
With some further manipulation of [random] you can generate weighted probabilities of getting specific notes in your 12-tone scale.