possible to prevent send and recieve to send messages all over the Live set?

While nobody can protect you from yourself in all cases, I believe if you use names like "send ---someName" and "receive ---someName", then those messages stay local to the device. The "---" at the beginning is what is important.

mz

Protecting people from themselves is something usually done in more extreme situations than in those invloving max patching, I guess,

but what does --- mean? I cant see anything about it in send help or reference

Thanks

Well, I think with Max you come often enough to this point where something should protect you from yourself - if you do public installations you can get in quite extreme situations - imagine you boost a sound with full level out of Max/MSP - could so some damage.

Well, I think you know that you can name stuff. It might be not too bad to add the project to that and maybe even you initials (like we have jit.- cv.- etc.)

so 'send meChorusIntensity' - this way you could be halfway sure you will not run into receives that are not meant for you send :)

I mean, now with M4L we do not only have to think about our own Maxpatch but also about all the M4L devices from all the others ... ws that considered ?

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Yes, this --- comes from nowhere... I've read it in an interview

• http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/12/08/life-on-the-grid-behind-the-scenes-with-strettas-max-for-live-monome-music-suite/#more-8584

f.e

It's used all over the place in the devices which comes with Max for Live. We should probably but that somewhere else in the documentation though. Thanks for mentioning it.

The --- will be replaced automatically by some unique random number, so if you put those before the name of a send/receive/coll/buffer~/table and others, this makes the object only communicate share data within the device.

@Emmanuel Jordan:

So I guess this new --- feature is new to 5.1? Does it work in standard Max patches as well, giving us something like $0 in a top level Pd patch?

It's not really new, it's the same trick we used in pluggo. The difference between #0 and --- is that #0 only works in abstraction/subpatcher.

It's been in Max for at least 8 years. Yeah we need to document it more. It also works for buffer~ names.

So

buffer~ ---foobarg

Will only be accessible within the enclosing top level patcher or device

-A

>I mean, now with M4L we do not only have to think about our own Maxpatch but
>also about all the M4L devices from all the others ... ws that considered ?

Sure was. The global namespace in Max [of which Max for Live is a subset] is a feature that allows you to share data across a large and complex patch or pair of patches. The --- came along in a world in which people ran multiple pluggo devices. We'll put lots of nice mentions in the help files and refpages, though.