presentation mode questions

Kasper's icon

hi

I am a long-time maxmsp user, but I mostly use max4, or, when using max5 I use it in a very max4-way. Now I started a new project, using max5 and willing to really use the presentation mode features (which is supposed to be the big change, since the "audio engine" is the same isn't it??) ; so i have a few basic questions :

_does an object to be included in the presentation view have to be on the top level on the edit view, or could it be inside a sub-patcher? I guess it has to be on the top-level, i wish i was wrong
_when using b-patchers, is the visible part of the bpatcher treated as a whole ? I mean when my bpatcher shows, say 3 sliders, can I have all 3 on the edit level, BUT only one of them on the presentation level? Again, I am afraid, not
_finally, if I want to have some annotations (comments), fancy panels, or someting on the presentation level, it seems I am obliged to have them on my edit level as well.... not very practical... ok, I can reduce a panel, but a text is a text.....
_when i have a comment on the edit level, i can only have ONE copy of it on the presentation level (would be handy to have only one "volume" or whatever, but to be able to place it in different places of the presentation

that's it - for the moment

meny thanks

kasper

jln's icon

Hi Kasper,

You are (unfortunately) correct on all points mentioned.

Best,
Julien

MIB's icon

yup, only what's on the top layer will shop in presentation mode

the bpatcher will be treated as a whole, what you see is what you get; but you could probably hack something together with messages like "presentation 0", "presentation 1" and thispatcher. won't be pretty but certainly possible

yes, panels and comments do have to be in both; I usually shrink all panels down to about 10x10 and stack them all in a corner somewhere out of the way along with text that doesn't need to be readable in edit mode

Chris Muir's icon

There's a check box in the patcher inspector "Open In Presentation" which will show just the stuff that is included in the presentation layer of the bpatcher, when it is included in a parent. This needs to be set in the Patcher Inspector for the bpatcher.

pdelges's icon

About bpatcher and Max5 in general, there is a very usefull new feature: you can have more views of the same patch. You can get another view of a bpatcher's file, and put it in Edit or Presentation view (check the contextual menu of bpatcher).

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