Question about select module and symbols
In pure data when the arguments for a select module are words , it will only work when the incoming message is converted to a symbol ( needs the selector symbol)
Example : select module has argument 'this' , when sending it the message 'this' it won't work , appending a symbol object solves this .
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In max however , it works straight out of the box , messages are routed accordingly .
Are these then converted to symbols automatically
Are these then converted to symbols automatically
yes, basically, this is specific to how certain objects are coded internally, 'select' just happens to be friendly to 'string'/symbols that way... other objects might require an identifier like '%s'(see 'regexp' helpfile) or '$s'(see 'if' helpfile) entered within its arguments/scripting-opcodes to prepare it for symbol input(sometimes you still need the 'fromsymbol' and 'tosymbol' objects to translate symbols in certain contexts, anyways... i can't think of one of these contexts easily because max has become very format-agnostic in recent years, it's much easier to handle data of all kinds now).
in max, "this" is a symbol (and you can not convert it to a symbol or type "this" into a trigger or messagebox for that reason.)
you only need [tosymbol] if there are spaces in a string, because those are of type list.
yes "this" message is a symbol for the same reason why it's a symbol in pure data
But , for convenience sake , the print will NOT show it's a symbol neither in max or pure data , it will just print : "this "
And why does pd need an extra symbol to ge it into select if it's a symbol to begin with ?
It's small differences between these two that make me scratch my head
i agree with this: why is it so strange in pd. :) if i had to guess, they probably wanted to avoid that those words who are also messages to the object are "reserved" for that purpose.
[print] does never show you the type of data, but [printit] does.
where "message... with arguments" == data type list, "message" == data type symbol
Interesting , but over here the printit object does not instantiate .
Is it deprecated ?
O.K , it's an external ( this should be included in the main package )