Radiohead tribute needs max msp programer

naterguitar's icon

Hi, I am in a Radiohead tribute band and I need some help using my laptop to do something like this. Can anyone help?

Thank you!

mortimer59's icon
tomgalileo's icon

there was a full explained tutorial about that here:

ciao

On 16 Sep 2008, at 06:58, nate wrote:

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> Hi, I am in a Radiohead tribute band and I need some help using my
> laptop to do something like this. Can anyone help?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyKCwDJ7ZUc
>
> Thank you!

tomgalileo's icon

then there is the second part:

and you should look into max folder in the examples patch to the
ModSquad
(into the sequencing and loop folder).

That looks very similar to what it is applied to that guitar.

I remember there was on cycling74 website also an article-interview
about the radiohead guitarist...
i can't find it yet

On 16 Sep 2008, at 11:57, Tommaso Perego wrote:

> there was a full explained tutorial about that here:
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> https://cycling74.com/story/2008/7/28/12224/9253
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> ciao
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> On 16 Sep 2008, at 06:58, nate wrote:
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>> Hi, I am in a Radiohead tribute band and I need some help using my
>> laptop to do something like this. Can anyone help?
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyKCwDJ7ZUc
>>
>> Thank you!
>

desiredfish's icon

I can help.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Tommaso Perego wrote:

> then there is the second part:
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> https://cycling74.com/story/2008/9/3/142019/6681
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>
> and you should look into max folder in the examples patch to the ModSquad
> (into the sequencing and loop folder).
>
>
> That looks very similar to what it is applied to that guitar.
>
>
> I remember there was on cycling74 website also an article-interview about
> the radiohead guitarist...
> i can't find it yet
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>
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> On 16 Sep 2008, at 11:57, Tommaso Perego wrote:
>
> there was a full explained tutorial about that here:
>>
>>
>> https://cycling74.com/story/2008/7/28/12224/9253
>>
>>
>>
>> ciao
>>
>>
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>> On 16 Sep 2008, at 06:58, nate wrote:
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>>
>>> Hi, I am in a Radiohead tribute band and I need some help using my laptop
>>> to do something like this. Can anyone help?
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyKCwDJ7ZUc
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

naterguitar's icon

I'm totally new to max/msp. In fact I never heard of it until a few months ago while researching Radiohead's equipment.

I have messed around a little with max, but haven't actually gotten any sound to work (probably because I have no idea what I'm doing).

Thanks for any help you can give.

naterguitar's icon

Basically it sounds like it samples his guitar, and then plays it back at weird rhythms. Almost like delay, but weirder. Is the correct term for this "algorithm"? You can also hear this used on the album version of this song (Go To Sleep) off Hail To The Thief.

How my equipment is set up:

I am using a Vox Tonelab, which is my pre-amp and effects unit. It has an effects return & send, which is what I will use to patch my laptop into my guitar line.
My laptop is windows xp.

Where do we go from here? Let me know.

And thank you-thank you- thank you for your help!

cebec's icon

did you read tomgalileo's posts above? that's very helpful information and should get you well on your way. you might want to do some of the Max and MSP tutorials. They're not difficult and will tell you what you need to know to get the program set up for your purposes.

naterguitar's icon

Yeah I read the posts and the articles it linked to it.
I'll check out the tutorials too, thanks.

cebec's icon

That's the one you want! The 'stutter' effect is what Johnny G is using. Go through this article and you'll be set, I think.

naterguitar's icon

Yes, the stutter effect! That is exactly what I needed.

Now a second question. I would like to have an effect that I can sample vocals and then I'd like to be able to play them forward and backwards. I'd like to be able to sample 4 times and choose which ones I want to play. Is this possible?

Radiohead is using the Korg Kaoss Pad (KP3), but I don't have the 400 bucks to buy one right now, I just need something that can get me through the end of the year.

Luis Marques's icon

hello,

I'm watching this post and i need to say your project is very interesting. If i could help, count whit me. About your 4 sample question, do you want to RECORD and PLAY live, or Load 4 Samples in different buffers and play at the speed and direction you want?

Thanks

Luis Marques

naterguitar's icon

I want to be able to this all live on the spot.

Check out what Greenwood is doing on this song Everything In It's Right Place, off of Kid A.
Here is a live version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0s38lHIwRc

Both guitarists are messing with Thom's vocals.

To hear some of my band doing Radiohead tunes, check us out at www.radioheadproject.com

Thanks everyone for your help.

Luis Marques's icon

it's not hard to built an live audio recorder. i built one several months ago for the end semester project, where i take a small pice of a trombone audio live, and played instantly, or when i wanted to, it was a simple purpose, for manipulating then later. for doing the "glitch" effects requires more programing. for what i saw in the youtube video, he manipulates a live recorded audio and played whit different speeds, and the "glitch" effects is done by simple sliding from normal speed to almost Zero ( 0 ) and back again. aparentely there is more other effects like filtering or vocoding ( i guess) and probably reverb and delay. whit a fixed BPM, is not so hard to program in max, only requires hours of work and pacient.

Luis Marques

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"Are you anything more than just a product of your influence? "

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kjg's icon

yawn

naterguitar's icon

Here are my assets.

Laptop - 1 game controller

PreAmp/Effects box (vox tonelab), I have a patch set up for each song we play- also midi in/out - has effect send/return - & 2 expression pedals

Pre-amp runs to a 100w half stack.

If anyone has some ideas how to use these things to my advantage in this Radiohead Project, let me know. It looks like there are so many things you can do with Max/msp.

Thanks

Oh, and we're not really a tribute, we don't dress up like Radiohead or have any strange delusions... we just like the music.
But, thanks for your concern.

Eli's icon

another yawn

FP's icon

what about kaos pad ?!? he did it with this...

naterguitar's icon

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What's with all the negativity? Didn't your mother tell you "If you don't have anything nice to say... Don't open yer pie hole?"

Ok. Back to the items at hand...

My game controller is a PS2 style usb controller for those who were wondering.

Thanks for your time...

I like Melt Banana too.