Here's the attached version. I'm sorry about the patch being incompatible with max 4. In my opinion this incompatibility sucks big time as it basically splits the max community in half- the 'have-fives' and the 'have-not-fives'. I believe it is basically a very juvenile decision on the part of 'cycling 74'. Its like some local government putting a freeway in the middle of a suburb and thereby ruining it by dividing it. I could keep up the metaphors, but I'm sure you could think of a few others yourselves. c74 have vandalized (inadvertently?intentionally?)their own community.
> Here's the attached version. I'm sorry about the patch being incompatible with max 4. In my opinion this incompatibility sucks big time as it basically splits the max community in half- the 'have-fives' and the 'have-not-fives'.
The patch I posted on this thread and a million others like it would easily be convertible as it contains objects from the common object set of v4/v5. Obviously there are limitations to a conversion from 'format-5.x' back to 'format-4.x'. That's not my point; neither is speculation how much time they would or would not spend on other parts of the software development. My point is it has evidently been intentionally designed that way, to have built-in incompatibility (or more accurately, 'built-out' potential compatibility). It is that and only that that sucks.
Quote: Chris Muir wrote on Tue, 05 August 2008 09:17
> Well, given that it's basically impossible to do a complete job of the Max 5 -> Max 4 conversion, it's easy for me to see why Cycling didn't want to invest time in it.
> I would rather they spend their time on the SDK, Pluggo, and Jitter 2 than on an imperfect 5->4 converter.
Thanks for the tip-- I do know about the sc converter, and its great that fredrik ahs done this, but it is not the point. The point is people should not have to resort to roundabout ways to circumvent easily fixable limitations in the software. The fact that a third party has found a way of converting files shows just how easily c74 could do it and it also illustrates some kind of corporate laziness and maybe even a disregard for the community it has built up over the years. Sorry, but it's also got nothing to do with looking forwards, backwards sideways or any other way.
Quote: RabidRaja wrote on Tue, 05 August 2008 09:43
yay for pluggo, sdk, and other newish, useful things.
fredrik has done a great thing in making the patch converter for those who want it. we all do have finite resources and must make choices. and as for 'to each his own', whenever i read suggestions that max is incomplete without a standard au~ object, it puts me in a very cold, dark place.