Reverse delay (removing clicks)

Mr. Banshee's icon
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i'm obsessed with the sound of reverse delays at the moment, so i found this one on the forum and modified it a bit, but can't seem to keep it from clicking. Any help is appreciated! Thanks in advance!
-cb

Noob4Life's icon
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is this Tim Lloyd's patch? or Andrew B's? can't remember, seen it before, though. nice one. i bet Tim or Andrew might have a better solution to it.
but one possible solution, take grooveduck (Max5/examples/sequencing-looping/audio-rate-sequencing-looping/lib/grooveduck.maxpat), and apply it to the read/write heads of your patch:

Hope it helps.

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Mike S's icon

OP that is my patch, and I never did get it to work! Haha

lewis lepton's icon

i have a alesis midiverb 4 in my studio. love the thing, it has a really nice reverse delay on it too, which you can edit the parameters etc.
would be interested in looking at these patches. a reverse delay is always one of those interesting effects that wont die out, but only to be used at good moments, not every part of a track :D

Mr. Banshee's icon

Thanks for the help everyone, but i still get a bit of the clicking going on, just not as severe. i would love to do those long reverse delays like those heard on early Black Sabbath records or dare i say Beatles better period...oh psychedelia

Chris Muir's icon

I don't know anything that does the reverse thing better than an Eventide Orville or H8000, fwiw.

lewis lepton's icon

aye, i know the h7000, had it at one of the studios i used to work at. really nice. would love one.

earsmack's icon

Grab yourself a copy of Augustus Loop (VST) and use that either stand-alone or inside your patch - really amazing capabilities and very useful for tape-style delay and looping (and reverse) with really long capture times.

Tim Lloyd's icon

Ahhh........but wouldn't it be nice to work out how to do it well in Max? I wonder how the Eventide does it.......it will have had to overcome the exact same playhead/recordhead x-ing issues as one encounters in the Max universe. So it is possible.

The Beatles-type reverse delays are not quite the same, as they would have simply been a recording played backwards on the reel-to-reel........doesn't have the same issues because it's not "real-time" delay.......unless I'm mistaken.

I've had a tiny bit too much Mauritian rum to actually concentrate properly tonight, but I will make plans to experiment with this tomorrow!

Lets jump the reverse-hurdle and make some craAzy sounds! :-)

kp*'s icon

A very cool patch! Would sound super in stereo. The original clicked for me too. Noob4Life's ducking was a definite improvement click wise.

Tim Lloyd must still be drinking. ;)

or hungover.

Tim Lloyd's icon

Oops, I got distracted by eggnog...............I'll give it a go in the morning

XD

Noob4Life's icon

[eggnog]->[[inebration] *~ [temptation]]
outputs [stream-of-contentment]

mmmmmmm
egg nog.
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Chris Muir's icon

The Eventides are really smart about when they start a reverse window. They listen to the incoming audio and flip things based on the input phrasing.

roger.carruthers's icon

I would have thought stutter~ was a good object object for this, being basically a recirculating delay line - just use an inverted phasor in the right inlet.
I'm sure there's fun to be had with multiple play-heads, but it's escaping me thus far. The repeat message is worth a play, though.
It seems fairly click-free too, though I'm sure you could use a windowed pair to improve things, like the pitch-stutter example from CNMAT,
cheers
Roger

autreizieme's icon

Off topic, but,
How does one take the code above and load it as a patch?

Thanks

lewis lepton's icon

you highlight all the code including the ------begin------, ------end------
and copy and paste into max.

here is some more max arcana to look at. some other questions you may have mght also be in here.
https://cycling74.com/forums/common-max-arcana

lewis edwards
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