Speaker on Wii Remote

not sure what you want

wiiremote is a controller
not a sound source

The Wii Remote has a built-in speaker. I am asking is there a way to play sound generated from Max/MSP to this speaker on the Wii Remote?

I talked to Camille Troillard, the developer of OSCulator and said...

> The speaker quality is said to be very bad, and a bit cumbersome to stream
> data to it, so I don't think I will support it soon, unless the dev forums
> give more details on how to get a good sound out of it!
>

So, not for now, or any time in the near future from OSCulator. Oh well, any
other ideas?

--
Ken

4-bit/very bad speaker? Still an interesting peripheral, which I am shocked
to see hasn't been mastered already. Even a 4-bit audio output can give a
lot of feedback from a system. Imagine a blind person using the wii remote
in an application, he/she can get feedback via audio and vibration, and a
"blind" interface could be made to be very intuitive. If I could send audio
to the wiimote, I'd certainly have acrack at some interesting ideas I've got
floating about!

On 08/04/2008, Kenneth Stewart wrote:
>
> I talked to Camille Troillard, the developer of OSCulator and said...
>
> > The speaker quality is said to be very bad, and a bit cumbersome to
> > stream data to it, so I don't think I will support it soon, unless the dev
> > forums give more details on how to get a good sound out of it!
> >
>
> So, not for now, or any time in the near future from OSCulator. Oh well,
> any other ideas?
>
> --
> Ken
>
>
>

Hi there,

I think the speaker of the Wii Remote is a great idea and certainly could come useful in many situation.
Unfortunately it is very difficult to communicate with it because the protocol that Nintendo created for the little speaker is really weird and confusing.

I have been looking into it for a long time, but I only managed to partially reverse-engineer it and the results are pretty much unusable so far.
A friend of mine (who is a Nintendo developer) and I are in contact with Nintendo and are attempting to get them to release some official code so that I will be able to make it into a Max external.

I love the work that Masayuki did on the Wii Remote, however, for my taste, the wiiremote object is still unstable (especially with multiple remotes connected) and I would never use it for live performance.

My 2 cents...

- Luigi

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----- Original Message ----
From: Joe Bicker
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2008 5:17:07 PM
Subject: Re: [maxmsp] Re: Speaker on Wii Remote

4-bit/very bad speaker? Still an interesting peripheral, which I am shocked to see hasn't been mastered already. Even a 4-bit audio output can give a lot of feedback from a system. Imagine a blind person using the wii remote in an application, he/she can get feedback via audio and vibration, and a "blind" interface could be made to be very intuitive. If I could send audio to the wiimote, I'd certainly have acrack at some interesting ideas I've got floating about!

On 08/04/2008, Kenneth Stewart wrote:I talked to Camille Troillard, the developer of OSCulator and said...

The speaker quality is said to be very bad, and a bit cumbersome to stream data to it, so I don't think I will support it soon, unless the dev forums give more details on how to get a good sound out of it!

So, not for now, or any time in the near future from OSCulator. Oh well, any other ideas?

--
Ken

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Luigi
check out OSCulator (OS X only)
while it is a separate app and not a Max external it is quite stable
and full featured
also the developer is looking into (considering) adding the ability
to send audio to the speaker
KIM

On Apr 11, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Luigi Castelli wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I think the speaker of the Wii Remote is a great idea and certainly
> could come useful in many situation.
> Unfortunately it is very difficult to communicate with it because
> the protocol that Nintendo created for the little speaker is really
> weird and confusing.
>
> I have been looking into it for a long time, but I only managed to
> partially reverse-engineer it and the results are pretty much
> unusable so far.
> A friend of mine (who is a Nintendo developer) and I are in contact
> with Nintendo and are attempting to get them to release some
> official code so that I will be able to make it into a Max external.
>
> I love the work that Masayuki did on the Wii Remote, however, for
> my taste, the wiiremote object is still unstable (especially with
> multiple remotes connected) and I would never use it for live
> performance.
>
> My 2 cents...
>
> - Luigi
>
>
>
>
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> AT SUPERBIGIO@YAHOO.COM AND DESTROY ALL COPIES OF THE ORIGINAL
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> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Joe Bicker
> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2008 5:17:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [maxmsp] Re: Speaker on Wii Remote
>
> 4-bit/very bad speaker? Still an interesting peripheral, which I am
> shocked to see hasn't been mastered already. Even a 4-bit audio
> output can give a lot of feedback from a system. Imagine a blind
> person using the wii remote in an application, he/she can get
> feedback via audio and vibration, and a "blind" interface could be
> made to be very intuitive. If I could send audio to the wiimote,
> I'd certainly have acrack at some interesting ideas I've got
> floating about!
>
> On 08/04/2008, Kenneth Stewart wrote:
> I talked to Camille Troillard, the developer of OSCulator and said...
>
> The speaker quality is said to be very bad, and a bit cumbersome to
> stream data to it, so I don't think I will support it soon, unless
> the dev forums give more details on how to get a good sound out of it!
>
> So, not for now, or any time in the near future from OSCulator. Oh
> well, any other ideas?
>
> --
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
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Hello everyone,

Thank you for all for your responses. If anyone was wondering why the hell someone would want to make the speaker on the Wii Remote produce sound from Max here it is:

I've created an installation called Information Hunter Gatherer using Max/MSP/Jitter that allows the player to shoot down news headlines with the Wii Remote and then Safari displays the news stories associated w/ the headline on a second monitor. Info Hunter/Gatherer is an interactive computer artwork where the participant can act and reflect upon their relationship with mass media, specifically the news headline.

Information Hunter Gatherer will be on display at the Electric Art Show at the Taskale Gallery in Syracuse, NY 4/26/08 7-10pm.

Due to limited space in the gallery, I wanted to route all sounds (gunshots + sound effects) to the Wii Remote so it would not pollute nearby installations that rely heavily on sound. But looks like the sound of gunfire will rock the show...

I've attached a screenshot of an earlier revision of the project.

Quote: stevebelovarich wrote on Sun, 13 April 2008 17:51
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> I've created an installation called Information Hunter Gatherer using Max/MSP/Jitter that allows the player to shoot down news headlines with the Wii Remote

Sounds like a neat project. If only there was a way to make another installation where shooting down the headline made it never happen.

This has been an ongoing criticism of the project, but my stance is one of selection. We filter the news we want to read from the rest of the information spectrum similar to a hunter choosing his prey. A hunter doesn't massacre an entire herd to get the best meat. I could easily switch it up... just a mater of scripting at this point.