Tap In/Tap Out 1 sample off?
Is this still true for Max 5? I am trying to use it for a fractional-delay filter or would I be better off with an external?
Yes - as far as I'm aware it is true that delay~ and tapin~/tapout~ give an extra sample of delay *WHEN* the delay time is driven with a signal (I'm not 100% on the case of a float/int). You can compensate this of course. Thus in contradiction to raja's post you *can* set a delay of 0 samples, but you can a delay of one sample, and so on.
The workaround is trivial if tedious....
(the above will work for any sample rate - the [adstatus] variable could be almost anything that will trigger if audio is restarted...
The reason for the extra sample concerns the method of interpolation and although I reported this a bug c74 do not feel this way - I see their reasoning, although I wouldn't have made the same choice. The reply I got was that it was not going to change....
Alex
Oh - of course - fractional delays of less than one sample are not possible, unless you are prepared / able to delay the rest of your signal path by one sample to end up with the correct relative delay..
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tapin~/tapout~ introduce one vector size of delay. The extra delay of one sample can be caused by floating point precision.
@ej -
1 - can you confirm with patch that tapin~/tapout~ ALWAYS introduce one vector size of delay? This is not my experience at all...
2 - Yes, of course there may be floating point imprecision converting from milliseconds to samples. However, the sample delay I was talking about is NOT caused by floating point imprecision, but is additional to this. This is easier to see in the case of delay~, where there is no conversion happening.
Thanks
Alex
You'll find 2 examples which show that there's always a minimum of one vector size of delay. In the second example you can clearly hear the difference when you change the number of samples of the vector size.
@ej - ah I see - a minimum of one vector I know about - sorry your post implied one vector plus the required delay....
Thanks for clarification.
A.
Thanks for all your help guys! Much appreciated!