hhaa, no problem. Thanks for taking the time to write it, it shed some new light.

I am just trying to figure out why I Max/MSP keeps crashing when I'm using techno~. it doesn't make any sesne so I figured I could come on here and try to see if someone with experience might be able to give me some pointers are let me know that techno~ doesn't work to well if you take action 'x'.

Thanks again for your help.

Well it is clear now that I am a bit of an idiot :P I had meant to reset the phasers phase to zero not the phaser rate but i connected it to the wrong inlet.

Now resetting the sequence works well.

thanks!