Steven

Hi all, I am trying to put together a way to control the decay of noise~ because as it is it is very long. I tried using line~ and pack but with no results. This patch shows how i think it might be achieved but once again my brain serves me incorrectly. In the left inlet of line~ the number 1 sets the intial amplitued and then 0 is the target amplitude with the dial in the right inlet setting the adjustable ramp time. Any help would be much appreciated.

Hi all, I am trying to put together a way to control the decay of noise~ because as it is it is very long. I tried using line~ and pack but with no results. This patch shows how i think it might be achieved but once again my brain serves me incorrectly. In the left inlet of line~ the number 1 sets the intial amplitued and then 0 is the target amplitude with the dial in the right inlet setting the adjustable ramp time. Any help would be much appreciated.
Steve

a-new-noise-decay-time

Try this. BTW, is the noise supposed to loop?

Try this.  BTW, is the noise supposed to loop?

Thanks Brian that alters the decay time well but it seems to send out a delayed version of the noise, repeatedly. The shorter the decay time the faster the delay. I just want to use noise as a sound source.

Thanks Brian that alters the decay time well but it seems to send out a delayed version of the noise, repeatedly. The shorter the decay time the faster the delay. I just want to use noise as a sound source.
Steve


That's why I was asking if you wanted the noise to loop. Disconnect the right outlet of [line~] that goes back and bangs the message box. See if that does it for you.

That's why I was asking if you wanted the noise to loop.  Disconnect the right outlet of [line~] that goes back and bangs the message box.  See if that does it for you.


At 6:51 PM +0100 3/31/07, Steven Holt wrote:

>Hi all, I am trying to put together a way to control the decay of noise~ because as it is it is very long.

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At 6:51 PM +0100 3/31/07, Steven Holt wrote:
>Hi all, I am trying to put together a way to control the decay of noise~ because as it is it is very long.

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Yeah, ditto what was said above. Noise has no decay. Good point. Half of the problem is being able to understand the logic behind it.

Yeah, ditto what was said above.  Noise has no decay.  Good point.  Half of the problem is being able to understand the logic behind it.


That got rid of the delay effect but the noise doesn't sound again after pressing the first note. I have to move the dial get it to sound. I guess it needs to trigger the amplitude back to 1. Thats why I figured that the bang was supposed to go back into the message box.

That got rid of the delay effect but the noise doesn't sound again after pressing the first note. I have to move the dial get it to sound. I guess it needs to trigger the amplitude back to 1. Thats why I figured that the bang was supposed to go back into the message box.
Steve


Your right noise~ has no decay. Thanks for pointing that out. I need a break max...I was getting the decay from the release of my envelope. But i got the idea of noise decay from a synth I use and thought it would be great for making percussive sounds so I wanted to have one in my patch.

Your right noise~ has no decay. Thanks for pointing that out. I need a break max...I was getting the decay from the release of my envelope. But i got the idea of noise decay from a synth I use and thought it would be great for making percussive sounds so I wanted to have one in my patch.
Steve


Hi Chris this text wont open as a max patch. It just shows the text. Can you resend it or something?

1. Copy the Maxish text from my post (the #P block of text)

3. Select "New from Clipboard" from the File menu

1. Copy the Maxish text from my post (the #P block of text)
2. Go to Max
3. Select "New from Clipboard" from the File menu
4. ta da!


Quote: Steven wrote on Sat, 31 March 2007 11:56

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> That got rid of the delay effect but the noise doesn't sound again after pressing the first note. I have to move the dial get it to sound. I guess it needs to trigger the amplitude back to 1. Thats why I figured that the bang was supposed to go back into the message box.

Hmm... It should work by just clicking the message box again. Try this.

Quote: Steven wrote on Sat, 31 March 2007 11:56
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> That got rid of the delay effect but the noise doesn't sound again after pressing the first note. I have to move the dial get it to sound. I guess it needs to trigger the amplitude back to 1. Thats why I figured that the bang was supposed to go back into the message box.
> Steve  
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Hmm...  It should work by just clicking the message box again.  Try this.

Thanks a lot Chris, that seems to be working well. Just the note on and note off messages seem triggering the noise now but i'm sure i can fix that.

Thanks a lot Chris, that seems to be working well. Just the note on and note off messages seem triggering the noise now but i'm sure i can fix that.
Thanks :)
Steve


So Chris Muir's use of sprintf got me thinking. Here's one that uses MIDI note velocity to adjust the amplitude of the noise attack before it begins to delay.

So Chris Muir's use of sprintf got me thinking.  Here's one that uses MIDI note velocity to adjust the amplitude of the noise attack before it begins to delay.

I should have said ...before it begins to *decay*

you could create such a short envelope by using [click~] 

to enter the sample values and then [peek~] to write them 

when this [buffer~] is played, it will "open the gate"

when controlling a [*~ ] behind the [noise~].

[click~] itself, used alone that is, is useful for percussion 

synthesis anyway, with the only limit that it is not fully

(you need to send it messages to change the sound/lenght)

you could create such a short envelope by using [click~] 
to enter the sample values and then [peek~] to write them 
into a [buffer~].

when this [buffer~] is played, it will "open the gate"
when controlling a [*~ ] behind the [noise~].

[click~] itself, used alone that is, is useful for percussion 
synthesis anyway, with the only limit that it is not fully
dynamic.
(you need to send it messages to change the sound/lenght)

excuse me: "peek~" must read "record~" of course.

Well, as long as we're going for extra credit:

a new noise decay time