Roby Steinmetzer

I'm pleased to announce the immediate release of rs.delos, a flexible timeline editor and player external for MaxMSP 5.

http://arts.lu/roby/index.php/site/maxmsp/rs_delos

More info and videos: http://arts.lu/roby/index.php/site/maxmsp/rs_delos

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This looks interesting, and directly useful to a project I've had on the backburner for a while - my biggest question is, can you save/load timelines as a file?

Would be nice if there was some sort of demo version to try out, so I can see if I can bend it to my needs before I purchase, too. :D

Nearly bought it and then noticed times were in milliseconds. Can it work using a bar/beat/tick representation?

I'll build a demo version as soon as I'll find some time.

Concerning bar/beat/tick representation, this is something that is definitely on my todo list.

But I want a system that allows for flexible time signature and tempo changes.

I started working on it but it's not yet ready, so it did not make it into the initial release.

Concerning bar/beat/tick representation, this is something that is definitely on my todo list.
But I want a system that allows for flexible time signature and tempo changes.
I started working on it but it's not yet ready, so it did not make it into the initial release.

I'm working on a partially similar project for my thesis - but as a standalone/OSC application ...

1. How long did it take you to write the whole thing ?

2. Is it "scriptable" ? I mean can the gui commands also be invoked by messages to the external? (Looking at the Undo History, the potential seems to be there...)

So I've got two questions:
1. How long did it take you to write the whole thing ?
2. Is it "scriptable" ? I mean can the gui commands also be invoked by messages to the external? (Looking at the Undo History, the potential seems to be there...)

You can create and insert events into the timeline as well as modify existing events through Max messages.

I'll have to make a screencast demonstrating it.

Yes it is.
You can create and insert events into the timeline as well as modify existing events through Max messages.

there is an other external around, which does nearly the same.

http://www.noteformax.net/data/index.php/en/

it would be great, if cycling74 would include the detonate external in max6.

now we have rs_delos, note~ and detonate.

there is an other external around, which does nearly the same.
perhapy you should collaborate ;-)

it would be great, if  cycling74 would include the detonate external in max6.
now we have rs_delos, note~ and detonate.

I've been fortunate enough to be a beta tester for Roby's rs.delos object, and can say that it is quite amazing. I've not yet played with the note~ object referenced above (hope to try it at the Cycling Expo!), but a few nice things about Roby's are the incredible flexibility for the GUI display, the ability to also embed buffer~'s in the pianoroll (just like any DAW, it can include audio buffers AND note info!!), and cross platform ability. And finally, Roby's open-ness to suggestions for improvement.

I've been fortunate enough to be a beta tester for Roby's rs.delos object, and can say that it is quite amazing.  I've not yet played with the note~ object referenced above (hope to try it at the Cycling Expo!), but a few nice things about Roby's are the incredible flexibility for the GUI display, the ability to also embed buffer~'s in the pianoroll (just like any DAW, it can include audio buffers AND note info!!), and cross platform ability.  And finally, Roby's open-ness to suggestions for improvement.

I'm afraid I was a bit of a lurker on the beta list, but enjoying the ride nonetheless.

Note~ and the new improved detonate look interesting too, but this is the one that's really caught my eye.

You wait years for a decent timeline for Max to come along...

Amen to that!
I'm afraid I was a bit of a lurker on the beta list, but enjoying the ride nonetheless.
Note~ and the new improved detonate look interesting too, but this is the one that's really caught my eye.

You wait years for a decent timeline for Max to come along...
cheers
Roger


OK --- I just bought it to play with.....looks like fun.

I just uploaded a demo version of rs.delos.

It's fully functional with the following constraints:

• Output stops working after 10 minutes

Download link at the bottom of this page:

It's fully functional with the following constraints:
• Maximum number of tracks: 2
• Maximum timeline length: 10 seconds
• Output stops working after 10 minutes

Download link at the bottom of this page:
http://arts.lu/roby/index.php/site/maxmsp/rs_delos

looks interesting, what is the license? (it says you have to read it before you buy it, but I couldn't find it)

http://www.arts.lu/roby/licenses/rs.delos_license.html

License is here:
http://www.arts.lu/roby/licenses/rs.delos_license.html


clear, thanks (maybe good to add it a link to the word "license" on 

clear, thanks (maybe good to add it a link to the word "license" on http://arts.lu/roby/index.php/site/store )


works fine here.
what browser / platform are you using?


haha, stupid me, I mistakenly thought the button was to buy the thing... and I wanted to click on the word license in the sentence above, sorry,... just don't expected that kind of button for that, sorry for the noise

haha, stupid me, I mistakenly thought the button was to buy the thing... and I wanted to click on the word license in the sentence above, sorry,...  just don't expected that kind of button for that, sorry for the noise


No problem Timo, I guess there was a problem with the design of my page.

I changed it and it's probably clearer now.

No problem Timo, I guess there was a problem with the design of my page.
I changed it and it's probably clearer now.


I've download your demo version just to check if it's suiting my needs.

When I load it, the tools don't appears in the window and I've got those messages in Max Window :

file cursor_arrows_leftright.png not found

I've noticed that the "Resources" folder that is supposed to contain those files is not present in the Mac version of the object so I've tried to copy it from the windows version with no success.

I am looking for a timeline to trigger sounds when a movie reaches particular frames.

the movie is readed with a varying speed (it is triggered by a bicycle). so I was wondering if a can play delos with some message like "time $1" rather than just do play and stop.

Hi Roby,
I've download your demo version just to check if it's suiting my needs.
When I load it, the tools don't appears in the window and I've got those messages in Max Window :

file pointer8.png not found
file cursor_pencil32.png not found
file cursor_scissors.png not found
file cursor_pastetube.png not found
file cursor_zoom.png not found
file cursor_pencilBpf32.png not found
file cursor_selectBpf.png not found
file cursor_arrows_leftright.png not found

I've noticed that the "Resources" folder that is supposed to contain those files is not present in the Mac version of the object so I've tried to copy it from the windows version with no success.
Any idea ?

More :
I am looking for a timeline to trigger sounds when a movie reaches particular frames.
the movie is readed with a varying speed (it is triggered by a bicycle). so I was wondering if a can play delos with some message like "time $1" rather than just do play and stop.

This is great !
Thanks for your work Roby.


I have still the same problem as Fixrobert 7 months ago after downloading the Max6 demo for Mac...

>>I'm pleased to announce the immediate release of rs.delos, a flexible timeline editor and player external for MaxMSP 5.

Your post indicates it is only for Max 5, but your website shows it is compatible with Max 6 as well.

Your post indicates it is only for Max 5, but your website shows it is compatible with Max 6 as well.
Very confusing.


I am using Delos in Max6. It works great, love it!

I bought it but I was never able to figure out how to use it! The documentation seemed to just define what the pieces were as opposed to how to actually use them. I futzed around with it for a while and then gave up (no time) and was just hoping some beginner tutorials would show up that I could read.

the problem with the missing image files was a path problem. if you download the demo there is a folder "rs.delos put into Cycling '74:max-externals", but you don't have to put this whole folder in your Cycling folder, but only its content

this works: /Applications/Max6/Cycling '74/3rdparty-externals

this does not work: /Applications/Max6/Cycling '74/3rdparty-externals/rs.delos put into Cycling '74:max-externals

I am testing the demo is too buggy and unpleasant and restrictive.

  the license says no guarantees pay, pay and pay,

there are things in the list of things to do but "pay" is already solved ...

ok, detonate lost the gui
I am testing the demo is too buggy and unpleasant and restrictive.
  the license says no guarantees pay, pay and pay,
introductory price!!!??
Not finished ..
there are things in the list of things to do but "pay" is already solved ...

Hi Roby, play around with delos. Very anazing! What is the easiest or best way to send different tracks to different channels?

Excuse my silly question. First parameter of delos output is tracknumber!

Hey- great concept- much needed, but I'm having issues getting usable output from it. I'm just using the demo, but sometimes it doesn't cycle when it is set to, sometimes it misses messages, and the bpf output doesn't produce reliable results. It seems like the first two issues happen when there's something else going on in Max, like a message box moving. Maybe it has to do with the transport missing a specific time or something?

The bpf output sometimes kicks out time x coordinates based on the absolute time of the transport, sometimes between 0 and around 100 (but not always), even when the event is much longer. This isn't affected by changing absolute vs relative bpf time.

I'd love to use this external for a number of applications, but I don't think I can at this point. Any suggestions?

Hey- great concept- much needed, but I'm having issues getting usable output from it. I'm just using the demo, but sometimes it doesn't cycle when it is set to, sometimes it misses messages, and the bpf output doesn't produce reliable results. It seems like the first two issues happen when there's something else going on in Max, like a message box moving. Maybe it has to do with the transport missing a specific time or something?
The bpf output sometimes kicks out time x coordinates based on the absolute time of the transport, sometimes between 0 and around 100 (but not always), even when the event is much longer. This isn't affected by changing absolute vs relative bpf time.

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