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vade

Ive been dabbling a bit with some audio analysis externals (Im a 

control rate jitter nerd, not an audio rate MSP head). Ive recently 

installed a bunch of analysis objects into my 4.5.7 install, but have 

been getting tons of crashes, they are as follows:

Are there any known issues with any of these objects, or 

incompatibilities in having them all in the search path? I havent 

Im running 4.5.7 & Jitter 1.5.2, OS X 10.4.6. Any ideas?

Ive been dabbling a bit with some audio analysis externals (Im a  
control rate jitter nerd, not an audio rate MSP head). Ive recently  
installed a bunch of analysis objects into my 4.5.7 install, but have  
been getting tons of crashes, they are as follows:

analyzer~
bark~
beat~
bonk~
brightness~
centroid~
fiddle~
loudness~
pitch~
segment~

Are there any known issues with any of these objects, or  
incompatibilities in having them all in the search path? I havent  
beeen able to isolate it myself...

audio-analysis-problems

I'm on pc, and don't know if these suggestions are crossplatform.

I'm mostly using bark~, and it always crashed max when a patch is closed 

while audio is on. closebang was great help here, no more crashes.

If you're using more then one instance of bark~, delay argument is a great 

Dumping bark~s output list to zl reg, and banging it out only when needed 

I've recently installed these objects on a friends mac, and it seems that he 

used it for live perfromance without problems.

I'm mostly using bark~, and it always crashed max when a patch is closed 
while audio is on. closebang was great help here, no more crashes.

If you're using more then one instance of bark~, delay argument is a great 
helper(note 2 in bark~ help patch)

Dumping bark~s output list to zl reg, and banging it out only when needed 
could also be helpful.

I've recently installed these objects on a friends mac, and it seems that he 
used it for live perfromance without problems.

Isn't this the problem that is solve by installing the 10.4.6 Combo updater?

It's talked about elsewhere in the forums that 10.4.6 breaks fft~ related objects, like these.

Oh, its certainly not that. All of the object load and run, but Ill 

occasionally get crashes (plus I applied the combo updater a while 

back regardless). I Think Nesa hit the nail on the head concerning 

closebang -> 0 -> dac~ so that audio is off when the window is 

closed. Since being careful with that, I havent had any issues.

Ill report on later if I can isolate it further.

Oh, its certainly not that. All of the object load and run, but Ill  
occasionally get crashes (plus I applied the combo updater a while  
back regardless). I Think Nesa hit the nail on the head concerning  
closebang -> 0 -> dac~ so that audio is off when the window is  
closed. Since being careful with that, I havent had any issues.

my experience with those tristan's objects is that

they come in a zip or similar file , together with os9 objects, that 

so if you have put the whole package into max path folder, when you 

open any of those objects, they crash max.

just throw away from your file path the os9 (or osx...depending your 

with pitch~ i still got crashes everytime i close the help file or 

my experience with those tristan's objects is that
they come in a zip or similar file , together with os9 objects, that  
has the same name.
so if you have put the whole package into max path folder,  when you  
open any of those objects, they crash max.
just throw away from your file path the os9 (or osx...depending your  
OS) objects.

this what happened to me,
even though
with pitch~ i still got crashes everytime i close the help file or  
closing a patch containing pitch...

try them one by one, you knowerr .. the exclusion trick.

dont forget that you can have objects not in 

the externals folder but load them in the running 

dont forget that you can have objects not in 
the externals folder but load them in the running 
runtime by doubleclicking.

> I Think Nesa hit the nail on the head concerning closebang -> 0 ->

> dac~ so that audio is off when the window is closed.

Taking this a little deeper, I recall a post from DDZ, probably a 

year or so ago, pointing out that the order in which an MSP object 

does things at deallocation time is critical, particularly because 

deallocation can happen while DSP is running.

If Tristan is reading (these were mostly his objects, as I recall), 

I don't recall the exact details, but they must be somewhere in the 

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On 20-Apr-2006, at 23:02, vade wrote:
> I Think Nesa hit the nail on the head concerning closebang -> 0 ->
> dac~ so that audio is off when the window is closed.

Taking this a little deeper, I recall a post from DDZ, probably a  
year or so ago, pointing out that the order in which an MSP object  
does things at deallocation time is critical, particularly because  
deallocation can happen while DSP is running.

If Tristan is reading (these were mostly his objects, as I recall),  
he might want to investigate.

I don't recall the exact details, but they must be somewhere in the  
collected developer memory-base.

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Audio analysis problems.