coll problem, OSX upgrade, serial and midi conflicts

wateronthefront@gmail.com's icon

dear list,

battling with something probably easily solved,

A "coll" object problem,
I upgraded to OS 10.3.9, installed the java upgrade (additional upgrade),
I have since encountered the following problem, when quiting max any coll
object (in or
out of sub-patch) will open as a featurless object, (no inputs/outputs) but
will still be able to
call a help file when alt clicking.

Analyzer~ was showing up as bogus too. So I re-installed max and jitter,
and the analyzer~
problem has past, but "coll" still shows up without functions. This is only
when quitting and
trying to re-open the patch, if I fix, save and re-open without quitting it
is fine.

find nothing in postings,
any help appreciated,

Another question: serial, and midi conflict.
This is an earlier post without answer, (sorry if I am crearting pollution)
Using two usb to serial convertors to steer stepper motors, working fine for
years,
only when combining with midi output (going to Doepfer Ctm board) do I have
conflicting tasks
and hence a crash.,

same, any help appreciated

1.5 ghz G4 laptop,
OS x 10.3.9,
velleman usb to serial
doepfer CTM on midi

langsound's icon

word.

i had a similar problem do to a @#$@# quicktime upgrade.
a colleague of mine had a similar problem with 10.4. the solution for
both was to re-install the os with the friendly combo updater.

in 10.3.9 i had to reinstall quicktime(6.x)and all my max stuff. i have
now disconnected this machine from the internet and disabled all that
@#$@#$ automatic update stuff. no more updates breaking my max box.

if it aint broke, dont update it...

wateronthefront@gmail.com's icon

yeah, I hear you,
thing is after all upgrade and reinstallations I have such a standard object
(coll) behaving odd,
no idea how to treat this, means each time I'm opening my patch I have to
reconstruct and connect the coll. Argg.

Google earth was the motivation for an upgrade, this doesnt work anyway,
@#$@# yes
thanks