Markus Fuchs

i want to put together a sort of hold module which i have programmed for the lemur and Reason as a maxforlive device.

It holds all notes which are entered as long as one note is held down. When no note is held down and new ones are entered the held ones get a noteoff and the new one are held.

Can anyone hint me to some modules that is needed for this? I need to count held notes and save their notenumbers in some kind of list for later release.

i want to put together a sort of hold module which i have programmed for the lemur and Reason as a maxforlive device.
It goes as follows:
It holds all notes which are entered as long as one note is held down. When no note is held down and new ones are entered the held ones get a noteoff and the new one are held.

custom-holdlatch-module

sending a "stop" message to poly is good for a release

Thx, i had a look and i wouldnt have found these by myself. There is just so much stuff.

Hope i can bake this together, as i like this alot more over the normal hold/latch. It feels nice and easy to trigger chords that way.

borax is almost all you need for this, yeah.

Yeah borax does most of what i need. I am currently fighting with the "if" clause that is deciding wether a note should be passed on to the stripnote to increase the number of held notes or if a bang to release all held notes should be sent before the note is passed on. The if object doesnt want to behave like i expect it to be :/

looking at your original post I'm not sure what the condition is for flushing the held notes, is this what you're looking for?

thx, i will try it it out tonight. I have two boraxes, one behind a stripnote that counts the held notes that go to the noteoutput and one that is reflecting the keyboards state (number of keys pressed down).

Now, if a new note comes out of the midi in, there should be a check: if there are no keys pressed down at the time/before this note was triggered, then flush all held notes. If there are keys pressed down, simply add that note to the held notes.

thx, i will try it it out tonight. I have two boraxes, one behind a stripnote that counts the held notes that go to the noteoutput and one that is reflecting the keyboards state (number of keys pressed down).
Now, if a new note comes out of the midi in, there should be a check: if there are no keys pressed down at the time/before this note was triggered, then flush all held notes. If there are keys pressed down, simply add that note to the held notes.
I will post my current project later.


This is how far i got. It works when hold is turned on when no keys are currently held. I would like it to work when i have triggered some keys and then turn it on. But then the pre-holdon keys dont reach the borax, hmm:

Edit just saw the file you posted which is doing what i am looking for. It is just doing it totally different ;-)

Can i use this in my Reason Synth templates which i intend to upload?

Edit just saw the file you posted which is doing what i am looking for. It is just doing it totally different ;-)
Can i use this in my Reason Synth templates which i intend to upload?


http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/2256/simple-latch-hold-your-notes-and-chords

old, but should give you an idea:
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/2256/simple-latch-hold-your-notes-and-chords


Ok I see what you were trying to do, the behavior is slightly different from what my device does, I fixed your patch up for you though, have a look, any questions feel free to ask..

Also feel free to use my device, just don't post it online somewhere as I want to polish up the UI before releasing it.

Thank you for the fixes, works much better now. Still i like your chordhold better as it makes it possible to activate hold while actually holding keys. My idea only seems to work when hold is activate beforehand.

Ah ok, yeah it was important to me that the hold could be activated after pressing the keys down.

Check this out I fixed your patch to be able to do that..

I actually think that for some situations your way of doing it is better since mine is just time based, when I release my chord hold device I would like to include your system as a possible setting

Ah ok, yeah it was important to me that the hold could be activated after pressing the keys down.
Check this out I fixed your patch to be able to do that..

I actually think that for some situations your way of doing it is better since mine is just time based, when I release my chord hold device I would like to include your system as a possible setting


There is also one thing with your approach and that is when you are playing a clip triggering some chords and have hold ON. Then the gswitch toggles each time notes come in and produces something in the undo history. Might be that it is because i have wired it into a different patch, not sure.

Gonna check out the fixed version tomorrow, thx :-)

Thanks for the heads up I'll check that out, I don't usually pay too much attention to the undo history (and it ends up biting me in the ass)

Thx the fixed version now works as expected even when hold is activated while already holding down keys.

Now only the undo thing needs to be removed from the gswitch, i think :-)

Thx the fixed version now works as expected even when hold is activated while already holding down keys.
Now only the undo thing needs to be removed from the gswitch, i think :-)


generally what you do is, in the gswitch's inspector, just change the parameter visibility from "automated and stored" to "hidden" and it should be fine.

custom Hold/Latch module