Thijs

I want to program a show in MaxMSP from about 3 minutes. I have to control several things and their timing has to be exact. I'm now using the "fucntion" object for this. If the show is 3 minutes (180000 ms) it not easy to program. (there is no grid on the timeline, only if I click a point I can see it's values). It's also handy if I could see at what point in time the show is. Here is a patch which I made but I'm not very satisfied about it.

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> I want to program a show in MaxMSP from about 3 minutes. I have to control several things and their timing has to be exact. I'm now using the "fucntion" object for this. If the show is 3 minutes (180000 ms) it not easy to program. (there is no grid on the timeline, only if I click a point I can see it's values). It's also handy if I could see at what point in time the show is. Here is a patch which I made but I'm not very satisfied about it.

> #P hidden message 347 24 28 9109513 clear;

> #P message 511 435 58 9109513 clickmove 1;

> #P message 453 435 49 9109513 clickadd 1;

> #P message 534 254 58 9109513 clickmove 1;

> #P message 476 254 49 9109513 clickadd 1;

> #P message 568 30 58 9109513 clickmove 1;

> #P message 510 30 49 9109513 clickadd 1;

> #P hidden number 5 204 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

> #P hidden newobj 5 181 66 9109513 counter 60000;

> #P hidden newex 5 158 39 9109513 metro 1;

> #P user rslider 71 205 848 32 60000 1 0 9;

> #P message 408 254 58 9109513 clickmove 0;

> #P message 387 435 58 9109513 clickmove 0;

> #P message 447 30 58 9109513 clickmove 0;

> #P message 350 254 49 9109513 clickadd 0;

> #P message 327 435 49 9109513 clickadd 0;

> #P message 389 30 49 9109513 clickadd 0;

> #P comment 72 26 264 9109524 STOEL LINKS - RECHTS;

> #P comment 74 250 259 9109524 STOEL VOOR - ACHTER;

> #P user function 71 460 920 604 0 1 0 0;

> #P number 927 514 28 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

2006/12/7, Thijs Eerens :
>
> Hello there,
>
> I want to program a show in MaxMSP from about 3 minutes. I have to control several things and their timing has to be exact. I'm now using the "fucntion" object for this. If the show is 3 minutes (180000 ms) it not easy to program. (there is no grid on the timeline, only if I click a point I can see it's values). It's also handy if I could see at what point in time the show is. Here is a patch which I made but I'm not very satisfied about it.
>
> Is there a better way to do it?
>
> Thijs
>
>
> max v2;
> #N vpatcher 81 32 1116 695;
> #P origin 22 0;
> #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
> #P hidden message 347 24 28 9109513 clear;
> #P message 511 435 58 9109513 clickmove 1;
> #P message 453 435 49 9109513 clickadd 1;
> #P message 534 254 58 9109513 clickmove 1;
> #P message 476 254 49 9109513 clickadd 1;
> #P message 568 30 58 9109513 clickmove 1;
> #P message 510 30 49 9109513 clickadd 1;
> #P hidden toggle 5 140 15 0;
> #P hidden number 5 204 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> #N counter 60000;
> #X flags 0 0;
> #P hidden newobj 5 181 66 9109513 counter 60000;
> #P hidden newex 5 158 39 9109513 metro 1;
> #P user rslider 71 205 848 32 60000 1 0 9;
> #P message 408 254 58 9109513 clickmove 0;
> #P message 387 435 58 9109513 clickmove 0;
> #P message 447 30 58 9109513 clickmove 0;
> #P message 350 254 49 9109513 clickadd 0;
> #P message 327 435 49 9109513 clickadd 0;
> #P message 389 30 49 9109513 clickadd 0;
> #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 20.;
> #P comment 72 26 264 9109524 STOEL LINKS - RECHTS;
> #P comment 74 250 259 9109524 STOEL VOOR - ACHTER;
> #P user function 71 460 920 604 0 1 0 0;
> #X frgb 75 75 75;
> #X brgb 204 204 204;
> #X rgb2 85 85 85;
> #X rgb3 255 255 255;
> #X rgb4 0 0 0;
> #X rgb5 0 0 0;
> #X domain 60000.;
> #X range 0. 120.;
> #X done;
> #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
> #P number 927 514 28 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> #P newex 927 490 65 9109513 snapshot~ 40;
> #P newex 927 466 31 9109513 line~;
> #P user function 71 276 921 415 1 1 0 0;
> #X frgb 75 75 75;
> #X brgb 204 204 204;
> #X rgb2 85 85 85;
> #X rgb3 255 255 255;
> #X rgb4 0 0 0;
> #X rgb5 0 0 0;
> #X domain 60000.;
> #X range -255. 255.;
> #X done;
> #P user function 73 56 920 191 1 1 0 0;
> #X frgb 75 75 75;
> #X brgb 204 204 204;
> #X rgb2 85 85 85;
> #X rgb3 255 255 255;
> #X rgb4 0 0 0;
> #X rgb5 0 0 0;
> #X domain 60000.;
> #X range -255. 255.;
> #X done;
> #P number 927 332 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> #P newex 927 308 63 9109513 snapshot~ 40;
> #P newex 927 283 27 9109513 line~;
> #P number 927 136 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> #P button 12 27 38 0;
> #P newex 927 112 63 9109513 snapshot~ 40;
> #P user ezdac~ 9 77 53 110 0;
> #P newex 927 87 27 9109513 line~;
> #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 20.;
> #P comment 76 432 207 9109524 GELUIDSCYCLUS;
> #P hidden connect 4 0 27 0;
> #P hidden fasten 25 2 27 0 46 215 72 215 72 128 10 128;
> #P hidden connect 27 0 24 0;
> #P hidden connect 24 0 25 0;
> #P hidden connect 25 0 26 0;
> #P hidden connect 26 0 23 0;
> #P hidden connect 4 0 10 0;
> #P connect 31 0 10 0;
> #P connect 30 0 10 0;
> #P connect 22 0 10 0;
> #P connect 19 0 10 0;
> #P hidden connect 34 0 10 0;
> #P hidden connect 4 0 14 0;
> #P connect 32 0 14 0;
> #P connect 33 0 14 0;
> #P connect 21 0 14 0;
> #P connect 18 0 14 0;
> #P hidden connect 34 0 14 0;
> #P hidden connect 4 0 9 0;
> #P connect 29 0 9 0;
> #P connect 28 0 9 0;
> #P connect 20 0 9 0;
> #P connect 17 0 9 0;
> #P hidden connect 34 0 9 0;
> #P hidden connect 9 1 1 0;
> #P connect 1 0 3 0;
> #P connect 3 0 5 0;
> #P hidden connect 10 1 6 0;
> #P connect 6 0 7 0;
> #P connect 7 0 8 0;
> #P hidden connect 14 1 11 0;
> #P connect 11 0 12 0;
> #P connect 12 0 13 0;
> #P pop;
>
>


Lgrid and Lmap from the Lobjects library are good interfaces to work with, if you are looking for a kind of sequencer user interface system to control your sounds.

i would say they offer more scope in terms of control methods than the function envelope object...

> I want to program a show in MaxMSP from about 3 minutes. I have to

> control several things and their timing has to be exact. I'm now

> using the "fucntion" object for this. If the show is 3 minutes

> (180000 ms) it not easy to program. (there is no grid on the

> timeline, only if I click a point I can see it's values). It's also

> handy if I could see at what point in time the show is. Here is a

> patch which I made but I'm not very satisfied about it.

If you could tell what is not satisfying, you could also change it...

Its not that bad at all, Just the metro 1 seems overkill (and scheduler 

kill) for just a display. cut the range to 3000 and the metro to 20. 

The other recommendations are worth to look into as well.

If you want a grid, you can place an hidden object above and below the 

function and connect them with an unhidden patch chord. You can give the 

Thijs Eerens wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> I want to program a show in MaxMSP from about 3 minutes. I have to
> control several things and their timing has to be exact. I'm now
> using the "fucntion" object for this. If the show is 3 minutes
> (180000 ms) it not easy to program. (there is no grid on the
> timeline, only if I click a point I can see it's values). It's also
> handy if I could see at what point in time the show is. Here is a
> patch which I made but I'm not very satisfied about it.

Its not that bad at all, Just the metro 1 seems overkill (and scheduler 
kill) for just a display. cut the range to 3000 and the metro to 20. 
Looks as smooth as the 1 ms - 60000.

If you want a grid, you can place an hidden object above and below the 
function and connect them with an unhidden patch chord. You can give the 
patch chord a color...

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sfogar, THANK YOU for pointing to emmanuel jordan's site. Particularly, his interpolation object (for multisliders or whatever you want) and his multi-function editor (WITH ZOOM!) are really amazing. These are powerful additions to max for sure, and anyone interested should definitely check them out!

I'm unable to locate Lgrid and Lmap. Might these objects have been 

discontinued? I do see a source called Lgrid at Peter Elsea's FTP site, 

but no binaries of either object, and neither is listed in his current 

> Lgrid and Lmap from the Lobjects library are good interfaces to work with, if you are looking for a kind of sequencer user interface system to control your sounds.

> i would say they offer more scope in terms of control methods than the function envelope object...

I'm unable to locate Lgrid and Lmap.  Might these objects have been 
discontinued?  I do see a source called Lgrid at Peter Elsea's FTP site, 
but no binaries of either object, and neither is listed in his current 
doc.  Thank you,

justin wrote:
> Lgrid and Lmap from the Lobjects library are good interfaces to work with, if you are looking for a kind of sequencer user interface system to control your sounds.
>
> i would say they offer more scope in terms of control methods than the function envelope object...


Please excuse my bandwidth-wasting inanity (I just now found them in 

Please excuse my bandwidth-wasting inanity (I just now found them in 
startup).

the ej.function object seems pretty useful. is there some way of getting all the multiple envelope information output simultaneously? or do i have to write it into other function objects somehow

oh and function keys 1 to 4 change the buffer channel. 2 and 4 are set up for pitch / pan type info. 1 and 3 for gain or filter type info

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