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Help : Draw with cycle~ and sonogram


chapelier fou
Jan 12 2013 | 1:12 pm

Hi !
For some reason, i want to draw lines using cycle~ and white noise (or a better sine signal) into a spectroscope in sonogram mode.
It kind of work, but is there any way to make the spectro ‘less sensitive’, so it would draw real lines. The result is kind of blurry, as you can see in this patch. I’m thinking of cheating and using a lcd instead, but i’d really like that the sound would actually draw the lines.

Thank you !

louis



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chapelier fou
Jan 22 2013 | 10:09 am

Anybody ?


chapelier fou
Jan 24 2013 | 9:28 am

Okay, i guess it’s just not doable. Thank you anyway.


Pedro Santos
Jan 24 2013 | 11:13 am

I think the spectroscope~ object has a fixed resolution…
Maybe the "jit.poke~-spectrogram" patch in the examples folder of jitter is useful as an alternative…


chapelier fou
Jan 24 2013 | 1:25 pm

Wow, awesome, this looks very promising !!
Just have no idea how to change the frequency min/max and the display ‘speed’.
Thank you very very much.


chapelier fou
Jan 26 2013 | 1:44 pm

Hi again…
So i’ve extracted the useful part of this patch :



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Could anybody help me to figure out how can i change the Freq Min/Max ?

Thank you very much…

ak
Jan 27 2013 | 2:06 am

here you have a crude way of calculating bin range (I increased fft size for better freq. resolution). For wider range / higher freqs you have to increase dim[1] of bar matrix.

messy but hth



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chapelier fou
Jan 28 2013 | 9:28 am

Well…thank you very much…..But…
I am on max 5, my max window says ‘no scale~object…’


ak
Jan 29 2013 | 12:14 am

ok, the use of scale~ was superfluous: 



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chapelier fou
Jan 29 2013 | 10:30 am

Thank you very much…i don’t really get how it works, but it does…
One thing : i thought that sending noise~ instead of cycle~ would draw vertical lines, but it doesn’t…


ak
Jan 29 2013 | 11:38 am

increase value in float number box below [cartopol~] object (to 0.3 or so).


chapelier fou
Jan 30 2013 | 9:34 am

Well, i don’t seem to achieve the results im looking for… Thanks anyway for your time and help !
I think i’ll use an lcd instead…


ak
Jan 30 2013 | 2:52 pm

well, you are looking for quite advanced analysis techniques… If you don’t need to analyze actual sound and you know what you want to draw, yes, you would better draw it "by hand"


chapelier fou
Jan 31 2013 | 5:05 pm

In fact the purpose is to draw lines (horizontals, diagonals and verticals) with pure signals and noise, so i think i can easily ‘cheat’ by using an lcd. Thank you very much.
louis

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