Brad Garton

I did this little max/msp standalone application last year, but I 

finished it fairly late in 'the season'. It generates slow/ambient 

variations on some of my fave holiday tunes. I just UB-ized it 

(Windows version also available) and thought people might get a kick 

http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/holiday2007/

And for OSX users, I turned the original patch into a Dashboard widget:

http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/music/hohoho2dmatic.html

I did this little max/msp standalone application last year, but I  
finished it fairly late in 'the season'.  It generates slow/ambient  
variations on some of my fave holiday tunes.  I just UB-ized it  
(Windows version also available) and thought people might get a kick  
out of it this year:

    http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/holiday2007/

    http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/music/hohoho2dmatic.html

holiday-tunes

Op 4-dec-2007, om 4:17 heeft garton@columbia.edu het volgende 

> I did this little max/msp standalone application last year, but I 

> finished it fairly late in 'the season'. It generates slow/ambient 

> variations on some of my fave holiday tunes. I just UB-ized it 

> (Windows version also available) and thought people might get a 

> And for OSX users, I turned the original patch into a Dashboard 

Op 4-dec-2007, om 4:17 heeft garton@columbia.edu het volgende  
geschreven:

> Hey everyone --
>
> I did this little max/msp standalone application last year, but I  
> finished it fairly late in 'the season'.  It generates slow/ambient  
> variations on some of my fave holiday tunes.  I just UB-ized it  
> (Windows version also available) and thought people might get a  
> kick out of it this year:
>
>    http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/holiday2007/
>
> And for OSX users, I turned the original patch into a Dashboard  
> widget:
>
>    http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/music/hohoho2dmatic.html
>
> ho ho ho indeed!
>
> brad
> http://music.columbia.edu/~brad
>
>
>
>
>


> And for OSX users, I turned the original patch into a Dashboard widget:

Do you have a little "How to turn Max/MSP patches into Dashboard 

widgets?" Or does it only work with RTCmix?...

garton@columbia.edu schrieb:
> And for OSX users, I turned the original patch into a Dashboard widget:
>
>    http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/music/hohoho2dmatic.html
>
> ho ho ho indeed!

Do you have a little "How to turn Max/MSP patches into Dashboard 
widgets?" Or does it only work with RTCmix?...

-- 
Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
--_____-----------|--------------
--(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
-- _|_)----|-----()--------------
----------()--------www.ccmix.com

I wish I did have a way to convert max/msp patches into scriptable or 

imbedded programs, but alas... I grabbed the RTcmix parts of the 

max/msp patch and used them in the Dashboard widget. RTcmix has an 

ancient/unix/command-line&file heritage, which makes it easy to imbed 

inside other applications. I would love to see this capability 

I realize that you could possibly do this by converting the patch to a 

plugin and using that API, or by building a standalone with a 

non-existent window and using a socket of some kind to communicate to 

it, but these aren't all that, uh, 'elegant'.

>> And for OSX users, I turned the original patch into a Dashboard widget:

> Do you have a little "How to turn Max/MSP patches into Dashboard

> widgets?" Or does it only work with RTCmix?...

I wish I did have a way to convert max/msp patches into scriptable or  
imbedded programs, but alas...  I grabbed the RTcmix parts of the  
max/msp patch and used them in the Dashboard widget.  RTcmix has an  
ancient/unix/command-line&file heritage, which makes it easy to imbed  
inside other applications.  I would love to see this capability  
available for max/msp developers.

I realize that you could possibly do this by converting the patch to a  
plugin and using that API, or by building a standalone with a  
non-existent window and using a socket of some kind to communicate to  
it, but these aren't all that, uh, 'elegant'.

> garton@columbia.edu schrieb:
>> And for OSX users, I turned the original patch into a Dashboard widget:
>>
>>   http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/music/hohoho2dmatic.html
>>
>> ho ho ho indeed!
>
> Do you have a little "How to turn Max/MSP patches into Dashboard
> widgets?" Or does it only work with RTCmix?...
>
> Stefan
>
> -- 
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --_____-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>
>


This is precisely the kind of thing that you _can_ do fairly easily in Pd 

(as the gui and pd process run in different threads and just communicate 

with each other, you can run Pd headless.)

Whether this sort of functionality will be available in Max 5 remains to 

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, garton@columbia.edu wrote:

> I wish I did have a way to convert max/msp patches into scriptable or 

> imbedded programs, but alas... I grabbed the RTcmix parts of the max/msp 

> patch and used them in the Dashboard widget. RTcmix has an 

> ancient/unix/command-line&file heritage, which makes it easy to imbed inside 

> other applications. I would love to see this capability available for 

> I realize that you could possibly do this by converting the patch to a plugin 

> and using that API, or by building a standalone with a non-existent window 

> and using a socket of some kind to communicate to it, but these aren't all 

This is precisely the kind of thing that you _can_ do fairly easily in Pd 
(as the gui and pd process run in different threads and just communicate 
with each other, you can run Pd headless.)

Whether this sort of functionality will be available in Max 5 remains to 
be seen I guess.

> I wish I did have a way to convert max/msp patches into scriptable or 
> imbedded programs, but alas...  I grabbed the RTcmix parts of the max/msp 
> patch and used them in the Dashboard widget.  RTcmix has an 
> ancient/unix/command-line&file heritage, which makes it easy to imbed inside 
> other applications.  I would love to see this capability available for 
> max/msp developers.
>
> I realize that you could possibly do this by converting the patch to a plugin 
> and using that API, or by building a standalone with a non-existent window 
> and using a socket of some kind to communicate to it, but these aren't all 
> that, uh, 'elegant'.
>
> brad


interesting, so do you have a little "How to turn PD patches into Dashboard

> This is precisely the kind of thing that you _can_ do fairly easily in Pd

> (as the gui and pd process run in different threads and just communicate

> with each other, you can run Pd headless.)

> Whether this sort of functionality will be available in Max 5 remains to

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, garton@columbia.edu wrote:

> > I wish I did have a way to convert max/msp patches into scriptable or

> > imbedded programs, but alas... I grabbed the RTcmix parts of the max/msp

> > patch and used them in the Dashboard widget. RTcmix has an

> > ancient/unix/command-line&file heritage, which makes it easy to imbed inside

> > other applications. I would love to see this capability available for

> > I realize that you could possibly do this by converting the patch to a plugin

> > and using that API, or by building a standalone with a non-existent window

> > and using a socket of some kind to communicate to it, but these aren't all

interesting, so do you have a little "How to turn PD patches into Dashboard
widgets?", Andrew??

On 06/12/2007, Andrew Brouse  wrote:
> Hi Brad,
>
> This is precisely the kind of thing that you _can_ do fairly easily in Pd
> (as the gui and pd process run in different threads and just communicate
> with each other, you can run Pd headless.)
>
> Whether this sort of functionality will be available in Max 5 remains to
> be seen I guess.
>
> cheers,
> Andrew
>
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, garton@columbia.edu wrote:
>
> > I wish I did have a way to convert max/msp patches into scriptable or
> > imbedded programs, but alas...  I grabbed the RTcmix parts of the max/msp
> > patch and used them in the Dashboard widget.  RTcmix has an
> > ancient/unix/command-line&file heritage, which makes it easy to imbed inside
> > other applications.  I would love to see this capability available for
> > max/msp developers.
> >
> > I realize that you could possibly do this by converting the patch to a plugin
> > and using that API, or by building a standalone with a non-existent window
> > and using a socket of some kind to communicate to it, but these aren't all
> > that, uh, 'elegant'.
> >
> > brad
>


On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Samuel Freeman wrote:

> interesting, so do you have a little "How to turn PD patches into Dashboard

I guess you could use a hook from the Widget into a command-line app.

I was just commenting that could use Pd to build an encapsulated version 

of RTcmix or whatever. I was also passing a subtle hint that that might be 

an interesting feature for Max 5. (headless encapsulated apps)

> interesting, so do you have a little "How to turn PD patches into Dashboard
> widgets?", Andrew??

No, it was Brad that did it, not me.
I guess you could use a hook from the Widget into a command-line app.
I was just commenting that could use Pd to build an encapsulated version 
of RTcmix or whatever. I was also passing a subtle hint that that might be 
an interesting feature for Max 5. (headless encapsulated apps)

It's really easy if you have something that can be invoked via 

widget.system("command-line process here", callbackwhenfinished);

A little trickier if you want to send dynamically from the javascript 

And I second the 'headless encapsulated apps' notion, obviously!

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Samuel Freeman wrote:

>> interesting, so do you have a little "How to turn PD patches into Dashboard

> I guess you could use a hook from the Widget into a command-line app.

> I was just commenting that could use Pd to build an encapsulated

> version of RTcmix or whatever. I was also passing a subtle hint that

> that might be an interesting feature for Max 5. (headless encapsulated

It's really easy if you have something that can be invoked via  
comand-line.  In the widget javascrupt:

    widget.system("command-line process here", callbackwhenfinished);

A little trickier if you want to send dynamically from the javascript  
code, though.

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Samuel Freeman wrote:
>
>> interesting, so do you have a little "How to turn PD patches into Dashboard
>> widgets?", Andrew??
>
> No, it was Brad that did it, not me.
> I guess you could use a hook from the Widget into a command-line app.
> I was just commenting that could use Pd to build an encapsulated
> version of RTcmix or whatever. I was also passing a subtle hint that
> that might be an interesting feature for Max 5. (headless encapsulated
> apps)
>
> happy holidays,
> Andrew


holiday tunes...