Peter Ostry

Hi, I am Peter Ostry, I am new in this forum and new to Max. Please excuse me if my questions are "common knowledge".

I am looking for the best way to let a slider run

- following several selectable exponential curves

I looked into the "bline" object and it seems to do what I want. I can load different lists to control the curve and the direction. But I am a bit unsure if I chose the right technique. I don't need ultrasmooth operation but writing the lists is rather tedious. And I need a couple of them and one set for for each direction. Is there another way to create exponential curves?

I think there must be a formula but I don't know which one (I am lousy in maths) nor do I know how and in which object to use it. If someone knows a trick for easy creation of exponential curves, I appreciate any suggestion or hints where to look in the Max manual.

I am looking for the best way to let a slider run
- from 0-90 and stop
- or from 90-0 and stop
- with adjustable speed
- following several selectable exponential curves

I think there must be a formula but I don't know which one (I am lousy in maths) nor do I know how and in which object to use it. If someone knows a trick for easy creation of exponential curves, I appreciate any suggestion or hints where to look in the Max manual.


how-to-make-exponential-data-curves

I would use just a line going from one number to the next over a 

chosen time and feed it into an [expr] containing the formula with the 

maybe you can get a [expr $f1 * pow($f1,1)] you can change the last 

number by substituting it with $f2 to get a faster or slower 

On 31 Mar 2008, at 06:24, Peter Ostry wrote:

> Hi, I am Peter Ostry, I am new in this forum and new to Max. Please 

> excuse me if my questions are "common knowledge".

> I am looking for the best way to let a slider run

> - following several selectable exponential curves

> I looked into the "bline" object and it seems to do what I want. I 

> can load different lists to control the curve and the direction. But 

> I am a bit unsure if I chose the right technique. I don't need 

> ultrasmooth operation but writing the lists is rather tedious. And I 

> need a couple of them and one set for for each direction. Is there 

> another way to create exponential curves?

> I think there must be a formula but I don't know which one (I am 

> lousy in maths) nor do I know how and in which object to use it. If 

> someone knows a trick for easy creation of exponential curves, I 

> appreciate any suggestion or hints where to look in the Max manual.

I would use just a line going from one number to the next over a  
chosen time and feed it into an [expr] containing the formula with the  
one below being the easiest
maybe you can get a [expr $f1 * pow($f1,1)] you can change the last  
number by substituting it with $f2 to get a faster or slower  
exponential function

>
> Hi, I am Peter Ostry, I am new in this forum and new to Max. Please  
> excuse me if my questions are "common knowledge".
>
> I am looking for the best way to let a slider run
> - from 0-90 and stop
> - or from 90-0 and stop
> - with adjustable speed
> - following several selectable exponential curves
>
> I looked into the "bline" object and it seems to do what I want. I  
> can load different lists to control the curve and the direction. But  
> I am a bit unsure if I chose the right technique. I don't need  
> ultrasmooth operation but writing the lists is rather tedious. And I  
> need a couple of them and one set for for each direction. Is there  
> another way to create exponential curves?
>
> I think there must be a formula but I don't know which one (I am  
> lousy in maths) nor do I know how and in which object to use it. If  
> someone knows a trick for easy creation of exponential curves, I  
> appreciate any suggestion or hints where to look in the Max manual.
>


Just one problem due to my lack of mathematical knowledge:

It works now as I need it but it starts always slow and accellerates on the way. Can I reverse that, to let it start fast and become slower? I tried 0.5 as the last number in the formula and less, but I don't see much of a difference. Negative numbers do not work.

Quote: pieter.coussement wrote on Sun, 30 March 2008 23:48

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> I would use just a line going from one number to the next over a 

> chosen time and feed it into an [expr] containing the formula with the 

> maybe you can get a [expr $f1 * pow($f1,1)] you can change the last 

> number by substituting it with $f2 to get a faster or slower 

> On 31 Mar 2008, at 06:24, Peter Ostry wrote:

> > I am looking for the best way to let a slider run

> > - following several selectable exponential curves

Yes it helped, much easier. Thanks.
Just one problem due to my lack of mathematical knowledge:
It works now as I need it but it starts always slow and accellerates on the way. Can I reverse that, to let it start fast and become slower? I tried 0.5 as the last number in the formula and less, but I don't see much of a difference. Negative numbers do not work.

Quote: pieter.coussement wrote on Sun, 30 March 2008 23:48
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> I would use just a line going from one number to the next over a  
> chosen time and feed it into an [expr] containing the formula with the  
> one below being the easiest
> maybe you can get a [expr $f1 * pow($f1,1)] you can change the last  
> number by substituting it with $f2 to get a faster or slower  
> exponential function
>
> hope this helps
>
>
> On 31 Mar 2008, at 06:24, Peter Ostry wrote:
> > I am looking for the best way to let a slider run
> > - from 0-90 and stop
> > - or from 90-0 and stop
> > - with adjustable speed
> > - following several selectable exponential curves


A nice no-brainer for curves is Tristan Jehan's mapper

> Hi, I am Peter Ostry, I am new in this forum and new

> to Max. Please excuse me if my questions are "common

> I looked into the "bline" object and it seems to do

> what I want. I can load different lists to control

> the curve and the direction. But I am a bit unsure

> if I chose the right technique. I don't need

> ultrasmooth operation but writing the lists is

> rather tedious. And I need a couple of them and one

> set for for each direction. Is there another way to

> I think there must be a formula but I don't know

> which one (I am lousy in maths) nor do I know how

> and in which object to use it. If someone knows a

> trick for easy creation of exponential curves, I

> appreciate any suggestion or hints where to look in

A nice no-brainer for curves is Tristan Jehan's mapper
object - see http://web.media.mit.edu/~tristan/ 
(Mac-only, atm, I'm afraid...)
cheers
Roger

>
> Hi, I am Peter Ostry, I am new in this forum and new
> to Max. Please excuse me if my questions are "common
> knowledge".
>
> I am looking for the best way to let a slider run
> - from 0-90 and stop
> - or from 90-0 and stop
> - with adjustable speed
> - following several selectable exponential curves
>
> I looked into the "bline" object and it seems to do
> what I want. I can load different lists to control
> the curve and the direction. But I am a bit unsure
> if I chose the right technique. I don't need
> ultrasmooth operation but writing the lists is
> rather tedious. And I need a couple of them and one
> set for for each direction. Is there another way to
> create exponential curves?
>
> I think there must be a formula but I don't know
> which one (I am lousy in maths) nor do I know how
> and in which object to use it. If someone knows a
> trick for easy creation of exponential curves, I
> appreciate any suggestion or hints where to look in
> the Max manual.
>


Another let-the-object-do-the-thinking approach are lp.scampf and lp.scampi from Litter Power. These run on both Mac OS and Windows and give you more curve variations than anything else: exponential, parabolic, logarithmic, S-curves, U-curves, linear with a "kink" point...

Part of Litter Starter Pack, available at the URL below.

Quote: roger.carruthers wrote on Mon, 31 March 2008 02:39

> A nice no-brainer for curves is Tristan Jehan's mapper

Thanks, this seems to be what I need for now.

And I am also Mac-only, so we fit together.

The Litter Pack looks also interesting, but is a bit too big for me. I don't want to start with many externals. I am pretty sure that I would make a big mess until I discover how to organize my Max work. Basics and just few and little helpers are more important at the moment.

Quote: roger.carruthers wrote on Mon, 31 March 2008 02:39
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> A nice no-brainer for curves is Tristan Jehan's mapper
> object - see http://web.media.mit.edu/~tristan/ 
> (Mac-only, atm, I'm afraid...)

Thanks, this seems to be what I need for now.
And I am also Mac-only, so we fit together.

The Litter Pack looks also interesting, but is a bit too big for me. I don't want to start with many externals. I am pretty sure that I would make a big mess until I discover how to organize my Max work. Basics and just few and little helpers are more important at the moment.


How to make exponential data curves?