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How to make Rewire Standalones efficient & fast …?

Jun 19 2011 | 12:45 pm

I'm currently trying to build some little machine using rewire.

For instance, I'm testing a very basic machine:
– it takes midi from my Rewire Host in a [midiin]
– it produces a sound on the ezdac using ad_rewire

my rewire host is Ableton Live.

I'm using an external instrument to route midi to the rewire external, and to have the audio signals coming back to the host.

Accuracy is very ……. low!

I resampled the audio coming back from the external in another audio clip using the resampling audio input in Ableton Live (basically, it records the Master Output)

Any idea?
I tested that with my standalone builded patch, and with the .maxpat version too.
all the same.

I read about guidelines, but I may miss something

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Jun 19 2011 | 1:33 pm

I’d suggest to repeat the test with another host since Live may be the culprit here.

Jun 19 2011 | 2:25 pm

broc, I will right now.
indeed, I don’t even test because I thought more about rewire implementation in max

Jun 29 2011 | 1:05 pm

Does someone already make a rewire client that works fine even with ableton live ?
I may miss something or … it is impossible to make one :p

Jul 08 2011 | 2:10 pm

any updates on this?

Jul 08 2011 | 2:19 pm

I forgot this idea.
Dreaming SynthMaker’s movement to AU or VST osx…

But I decided to code C++/Juce to build VST & AU.
This is my single option!

Jul 08 2011 | 3:11 pm

i see. one less to help put then!

Jan 01 2013 | 5:46 pm

i noticed the same with a rewire sampler project.(on win7) i’m not able to get accurately timed audio back to Live via rewire.
i don’t want to discard the idea and still written patches. and i can’t switch to a lower level language.

does someone know if max4live instruments are capable of correctly timed sample playback triggered by midi??
even if there’s a complex poly inside?

thanks for your help. and happy 2013 to all of you maxers out there

Jan 01 2013 | 7:21 pm

It should work since the timing accuracy inside M4L devices is the same as in Max/MSP.

Jan 02 2013 | 2:52 pm

i was more comparing the realtime responsivness of a max rewire slave vs a m4l instrument since the rewire seems not to work very well.
as far as i know there’s no big m4l sampler instrument out there.. o.

Jan 02 2013 | 2:54 pm

I would forget about rewire to link Live & Max. In fact, I forgot about that.

Jan 02 2013 | 3:07 pm

i was surprised that it doesn’t work in sync. so there’s no way left in max to build a big instrument which integrates with different DAWs.
and M4L doesn’t even offer multiple midi in or audio outs. :(

Jan 02 2013 | 4:18 pm

M4L instruments can have multi-channel midi input provided that the different channels are sent from other tracks in Live, exactly like multi-timbral 3rd party plugins are handled in Live. But multiple audio outs are generally not possible in M4L.

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