lefauxdjaber

I'm currently working an rather large Max patch. The problem is that now to connect a patch cord from any outlet/inlet takes a long time (a couple of seconds).

I don't believe I was having this problem before I downloaded the latest version, then again the patch wasn't the size it is now.

I've gone through all preferences thinking maybe there was something that was unnecessarily taking up cpu. I can't find anything to make it work.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, everything else works fine. Duplication, dragging, creating new objects, etc.

Also, I have hundreds of sends/receives (is that the problem?)

EDIT2: Current workaround, cut part I'm working on then paste into new patcher (scratch work.maxpat), then paste back when done. *double gun shot suicide to the head*

EDIT: Forgot to mention, everything else works fine. Duplication, dragging, creating new objects, etc.
Also, I have hundreds of sends/receives (is that the problem?)

EDIT2: Current workaround, cut part I'm working on then paste into new patcher (scratch work.maxpat), then paste back when done. *double gun shot suicide to the head*


larger-patches

I had this problem with some big patches, not including so many send/receives (so I don't think its the problem).

Generally I use subpatches to keep the "main" patch clean-ish (also helps in organization), to avoid this problem.

The thing is, that same size patches, with more or less same number of objects, behave differently on that matter.

Can't figure out witch objects cause the problem though.

 and shortcut your way to fast and happy patching!!!

I had this problem with some big patches, not including so many send/receives (so I don't think its the problem).
Generally I use subpatches to keep the "main" patch clean-ish (also helps in organization), to avoid this problem.

The thing is, that same size patches, with more or less same number of objects, behave differently on that matter.
Can't figure out witch objects cause the problem though.

I suggest you get the max-toolbox and shortcut your way to fast and happy patching!!!
Can't patch now without it!


One thing I've found to help speed up the gui refresh rate in large patches with long patch cords is to line as much up as possible vertically/horizontally (making use of [thru] where relevant) in such a way that the patch cords are all on top of each other, not all diagonal on different angles. This alone makes a VERY noticeable difference to patching speed vs sluggishness in my experience. Not just when dragging patch cords but also when switching from presentation to patching mode (which is way more sluggish if there are lots of patch cables going in all directions everywhere). Also, restarting Max and restarting computer every now and then also has positive effects sometimes too.

Great idea....why shouldn't our audiences have to wait a few minutes every now and again while we reboot our computers. I'll get our singer to learn a few jokes 😙

Also, restarting Max and restarting computer every now and then also has positive effects sometimes too.

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Also, restarting Max and restarting computer every now and then also has positive effects sometimes too.


Yeah they're talking about whilst patching but whatever you're right.

EDIT: Besides, I see time and time again people having issues that are resolved after restarting their computer because they haven't restarted it in days/weeks etc. It's so easy to sleep these days.

I did try using subpatchers, and though it helped to move around more fluidly, it did not help with the rate at which cords connect.

I restart my computer and programs all the time to prevent those types of issues, so it's not that. I agree though, every time something is weird and just doesn't make logical sense that it would respond that way, a fresh start makes it go away. Even the other day I had some very weird behavior and it required a re-install. Worked after that.

But what you said about vertical positions and not having everything all diagonal is interesting. Because I was trying finish the patch as quickly as possible, my objects are all over the place (all diagonal, all spread way out, etc). This may be the issue, but have you found that it's still an issue even if you encapsulate larger portions together? Because I have much of it encapsulated in different subpatchers.

Would having everything not as close and lined up as possible affect the behavior outside of edit mode?

At Nikolas:
I did try using subpatchers, and though it helped to move around more fluidly, it did not help with the rate at which cords connect.

At Joeman:
I restart my computer and programs all the time to prevent those types of issues, so it's not that. I agree though, every time something is weird and just doesn't make logical sense that it would respond that way, a fresh start makes it go away. Even the other day I had some very weird behavior and it required a re-install. Worked after that.
But what you said about vertical positions and not having everything all diagonal is interesting. Because I was trying finish the patch as quickly as possible, my objects are all over the place (all diagonal, all spread way out, etc). This may be the issue, but have you found that it's still an issue even if you encapsulate larger portions together? Because I have much of it encapsulated in different subpatchers.
Would having everything not as close and lined up as possible affect the behavior outside of edit mode?

Larger patches