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Hello , I'm back on this list after 2 years of inactivity!

I'd like to implement a keylogger using Max (something that captures any

pressed key even if the Max window is not on top).

Is there a way to do this using household objects ? or is Java/C code needed

I've heard about the external ice.key that does just that but it's not free

and I'm not ready to spend money on 0's and 1's..

I'd like to implement a keylogger using Max (something that captures any
pressed key even if the Max window is not on top).

Is there a way to do this using household objects ? or is Java/C code needed
?

I've heard about the external ice.key that does just that but it's not free
and I'm not ready to spend money on 0's and 1's..

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On 5-Dec-2006, at 5:00, william potage wrote:

> I'd like to implement a keylogger using Max (something that 

> captures any pressed key even if the Max window is not on top).

ice.key from iCE tools does this. (URI below)

> Is there a way to do this using household objects ? or is Java/C 

ice.key uses some pretty low-level C. I doubt that Java would let 

you go that deep and dirty. The standard key object & friends only 

get keystrokes from the main Max event loop and have no way 

whatsoever of accessing keystrokes when in the backround

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> I'd like to implement a keylogger using Max (something that  
> captures any pressed key even if the Max window is not on top).

> Is there a way to do this using household objects ? or is Java/C  
> code needed ?

ice.key uses some pretty low-level C. I  doubt that Java would let  
you go that deep and dirty. The standard key object & friends only  
get keystrokes from the main Max event loop and have no way  
whatsoever of accessing keystrokes when in the backround

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> Is there a way to do this using household objects ? or is Java/C code 

> ice.key uses some pretty low-level C. I doubt that Java would let you 

Right. Doing this in Java *is* a nightmare. Glad you've made it in C, 

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Peter Castine wrote:
> Is there a way to do this using household objects ? or is Java/C code 
> needed ?
>
> ice.key uses some pretty low-level C. I  doubt that Java would let you 
> go that deep and dirty.
Right. Doing this in Java *is* a nightmare. Glad you've made it in C, 
'cause it's not easy too ;-)

f.e
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On Dec 5, 2006, at 5:00 AM, william potage wrote:

> Hello , I'm back on this list after 2 years of inactivity!

Apparently, Hi can do this. Select keyboard as input, map the 

keycodes (or whatever Hi is outputting) to ASCII, and you're good to go.

I just briefly tested this using hi.help and max runtime (don't have 

license on this machine), but it does seem to work across the system 

> Hello , I'm back on this list after 2 years of inactivity!
>
> I'd like to implement a keylogger using Max (something that  
> captures any pressed key even if the Max window is not on top).
>
> Is there a way to do this using household objects ? or is Java/C  
> code needed ?

Apparently, Hi can do this. Select keyboard as input, map the  
keycodes (or whatever Hi is outputting) to ASCII, and you're good to go.

I just briefly tested this using hi.help and max runtime (don't have  
license on this machine), but it does seem to work across the system  
(including system password dialogs!)

Please, could you post the link to this ASCII ?

Please, could you post the link to this ASCII ?
I can't find it.

> Please, could you post the link to this ASCII ?

Hm, I don't have max installed at hand so i can't make example patch, 

but you need to map Hi output values of each key to appropriate ascii 

you could do mapping using hi, coll and key objects. hi object's 

output will be coll adress and key object's ascii code output will be 

coll value. at the same time use itoa to check if the ascii value 

matches the actual keypress. when you press all the keys on a 

keyboard, you have your map. you could also map the output of hi 

directly to the ascii character that comes out of itoa object.

Things will get more complicated with double/triple keypresses using 

shift, option or both. Hi doesn't care for shift or option,it only 

outputs two keypresses at the same time. If you want capital letters 

to map, you would have to keep track of whether shift or option are 

pressed and for how long. It could get quite complex, but for basic 

see info for key and itoa objects. that should get you started.

> ,
>
> Please, could you post the link to this ASCII ?
> I can't find it.

Hm, I don't have max installed at hand so i can't make example patch,  
but you need to map Hi output values of each key to appropriate ascii  
codes.

you could do mapping using hi, coll and key objects. hi object's  
output will be coll adress and key object's ascii code output will be  
coll value. at the same time use itoa to check if the ascii value  
matches the actual keypress. when you press all the keys on a  
keyboard, you have your map. you could also map the output of hi  
directly to the ascii character that comes out of itoa object.

Things will get more complicated with double/triple keypresses using  
shift, option or both. Hi doesn't care for shift or option,it only  
outputs two keypresses at the same time. If you want capital letters  
to map, you would have to keep track of whether shift or option are  
pressed and for how long. It could get quite complex, but for basic  
text it should be fairly easy.

I thought first you were using the ASCII object.

No problem to deal with standard Max objects.

Thank you very much!
I thought first you were using the ASCII object.
(was in a ftp repertory at Ircam...)
No problem to deal with standard Max objects.

I had been wondering about this last year sometime, when I wanted to keep track of a user's activity in another app -- does anybody know how to get the name of the front-most app? This would make it possible to have Max respond to key-commands in certain ways depending on which app is in the foreground... Could be handy.

If you're on Mac, that sounds a good job for AppleScript.

you need to map Hi output values of each key to appropriate ascii codes. 

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