Gregory Taylor

One of the things I did during the last Cycling '74 Max beginner's workshops was to share one of the recent "How might I make a patch that does X?" questions with several different solutions as a way to demonstrate the Max adage, "There's always another way to do it." Some of the attendees found seeing all those answers together sufficiently constructive that they now ask me, "How *else* might I think about doing this?"

The recent list question falls so elegantly into that category that I almost wish the workshop was *next* week.

To that end, here's an interesting question about non-linear mapping that strikes me as an interesting possible candidate for demonstrating your elegant patching skills:

The original question involved a patch that divides an output range into N units, and produces a "stepped" or "quantized" output across that range for any number you input [that is, if you specify a range of 0. - 1.0 and a quantization value of 4, then the step function will output only 0., .25, .5, or .75.

I suggested that perhaps it'd be smarter to have a patch that outputs .25 .5 .75 and 1.0 instead, but I'm being annoying.

Okay, Max heads. How many ways can you do this? Since our beginner's workshop only uses vanilla Max objects (with the exception of fiddle~) until the very last day, you might wish to demonstrate your prowess by using vanilla objects only. And we're not necessarily looking for the fewest objects - perhaps the most easily generalizable or graphically lovely?

One of the things I did during the last Cycling '74 Max beginner's workshops was to share one of the recent "How might I make a patch that does X?" questions with several different solutions as a way to demonstrate the Max adage, "There's always another way to do it." Some of the attendees found seeing all those answers together sufficiently constructive that they now ask me, "How *else* might I think about doing this?" 

The original question involved a patch that divides an output range into N units, and produces a "stepped" or "quantized" output across that range for any number you input [that is, if you specify a range of 0. - 1.0 and a quantization value of 4, then the step function will output only 0., .25, .5, or .75. 

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heres what I have so far, though I feel like I did this much better in the past.. Ill have to sort through some old files and find it. 2 weird versions here.

bit tougher then I thought it would be.
heres what I have so far, though I feel like I did this much better in the past.. Ill have to sort through some old files and find it.  2 weird versions here.

here's my solution. it's different than the others so far, probably because i was beginning to think 

about how to something similar in a patch i'm working on... anyway, enjoy.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------

>One of the things I did during the last Cycling '74 Max beginner's workshops was to share one of 

the recent "How might I make a patch that does X?" questions with several different solutions as a 

way to demonstrate the Max adage, "There's always another way to do it." Some of the attendees 

found seeing all those answers together sufficiently constructive that they now ask me, "How *else* 

>The recent list question falls so elegantly into that category that I almost wish the workshop was 

>To that end, here's an interesting question about non-linear mapping that strikes me as an 

interesting possible candidate for demonstrating your elegant patching skills:

>The original question involved a patch that divides an output range into N units, and produces a 

"stepped" or "quantized" output across that range for any number you input [that is, if you specify a 

range of 0. - 1.0 and a quantization value of 4, then the step function will output only 0., .25, .5, or .

>I suggested that perhaps it'd be smarter to have a patch that outputs .25 .5 .75 and 1.0 instead, 

>Okay, Max heads. How many ways can you do this? Since our beginner's workshop only uses vanilla 

Max objects (with the exception of fiddle~) until the very last day, you might wish to demonstrate 

your prowess by using vanilla objects only. And we're not necessarily looking for the fewest objects - 

perhaps the most easily generalizable or graphically lovely?

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here's my solution. it's different than the others so far, probably because i was beginning to think 
about how to something similar in a patch i'm working on... anyway, enjoy.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Gregory Taylor 
Date:  Sat, 17 Feb 2007 11:34:11 -0700

>
>One of the things I did during the last Cycling '74 Max beginner's workshops was to share one of 
the recent "How might I make a patch that does X?" questions with several different solutions as a 
way to demonstrate the Max adage, "There's always another way to do it." Some of the attendees 
found seeing all those answers together sufficiently constructive that they now ask me, "How *else* 
might I think about doing this?" 
>
>The recent list question falls so elegantly into that category that I almost wish the workshop was 
*next* week.
>
>To that end, here's an interesting question about non-linear mapping that strikes me as an 
interesting possible candidate for demonstrating your elegant patching skills:
>
>The original question involved a patch that divides an output range into N units, and produces a 
"stepped" or "quantized" output across that range for any number you input [that is, if you specify a 
range of 0. - 1.0 and a quantization value of 4, then the step function will output only 0., .25, .5, or .
75. 
>
>I suggested that perhaps it'd be smarter to have a patch that outputs .25 .5 .75 and 1.0 instead, 
but I'm being annoying.
>
>Okay, Max heads. How many ways can you do this? Since our beginner's workshop only uses vanilla 
Max objects (with the exception of fiddle~) until the very last day, you might wish to demonstrate 
your prowess by using vanilla objects only. And we're not necessarily looking for the fewest objects - 
perhaps the most easily generalizable or graphically lovely?
>
>Accentuating the positive,
>gregory
>
>
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>

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Part of the reason that this particular kind of question caught my attention was that I was curious to see whether or not anyone would think of the problem in other ways than using the expr object, opting for solutions that would be more akin to the "flow" of data than expressions....

It's always good to have an example of what not to do. Am I'm embarrasing myself by posting this?

It's always good to have an example of what not to do.  Am I'm embarrasing myself by posting this?

On 2/17/07 6:54 PM, "David Morneau" wrote:

On 2/17/07 6:54 PM, "David Morneau"  wrote:

Cheers
Gary Lee Nelson
Oberlin College
www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

Oops. I saved way right in a large window. Here is is on the left.

On 2/18/07 9:06 AM, "Gary Lee Nelson" wrote:

Oops.  I saved way right in a large window.  Here is is on the left.

On 2/18/07 9:06 AM, "Gary Lee Nelson"  wrote:

wow. i had completely forgotten about bline...

>Oops. I saved way right in a large window. Here is is on the left.

>#P message 101 167 83 196617 $1 , bang , $2 $3;

>On 2/18/07 9:06 AM, "Gary Lee Nelson" wrote:

>> #P message 690 173 46 196617 0. 1. 17;

>> #P message 673 149 46 196617 3. 7. 11;

>> #P message 729 274 83 196617 $1 , bang , $2 $3;

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Gary Lee Nelson 
Date:  Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:13:15 -0500

>Oops.  I saved way right in a large window.  Here is is on the left.
>
>#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
>#P window linecount 1;
>#P message 118 126 20 196617 $3;
>#P message 62 66 46 196617 0. 1. 17;
>#P message 45 42 46 196617 3. 7. 11;
>#P message 101 167 83 196617 $1 , bang , $2 $3;
>#P newex 45 165 40 196617 uzi;
>#P newex 45 89 27 196617 t b l;
>#P newex 45 232 32 196617 print;
>#P newex 45 203 111 196617 bline;
>#P fasten 2 1 4 0 67 136 106 136;
>#P fasten 2 1 7 0 67 116 123 116;
>#P connect 0 0 1 0;
>#P connect 3 0 0 0;
>#P connect 2 0 3 0;
>#P connect 5 0 2 0;
>#P connect 6 0 2 0;
>#P fasten 7 0 3 1 123 153 80 153;
>#P connect 4 0 0 0;
>#P window clipboard copycount 8;
>
>
>
>On 2/18/07 9:06 AM, "Gary Lee Nelson"  wrote:
>
>> #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
>> #P window linecount 1;
>> #P message 746 233 20 196617 $3;
>> #P message 690 173 46 196617 0. 1. 17;
>> #P message 673 149 46 196617 3. 7. 11;
>> #P message 729 274 83 196617 $1 , bang , $2 $3;
>> #P newex 673 272 40 196617 uzi;
>> #P newex 673 196 27 196617 t b l;
>> #P newex 673 339 32 196617 print;
>> #P newex 673 310 111 196617 bline;
>> #P fasten 2 1 4 0 695 243 734 243;
>> #P fasten 2 1 7 0 695 223 751 223;
>> #P connect 4 0 0 0;
>> #P fasten 7 0 3 1 751 260 708 260;
>> #P connect 6 0 2 0;
>> #P connect 5 0 2 0;
>> #P connect 2 0 3 0;
>> #P connect 3 0 0 0;
>> #P connect 0 0 1 0;
>> #P window clipboard copycount 8;
>
>
>Cheers
>Gary Lee Nelson
>Oberlin College
>www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
>
>
>

But that is another wonderful thing about this list. Someone always

remembers something I've forgotten. This little programming match reminded

me that an integer in the left inlet of uzi fires that many bangs and defer

can be used for recursive programming without overflowing the stack.

On 2/18/07 10:40 AM, "David Morneau" wrote:

> wow. i had completely forgotten about bline...

But that is another wonderful thing about this list.  Someone always
remembers something I've forgotten.  This little programming match reminded
me that an integer in the left inlet of uzi fires that many bangs and defer
can be used for recursive programming without overflowing the stack.

On 2/18/07 10:40 AM, "David Morneau"  wrote:

And singing the generalization song again...

Linterp by Peter Elsea. No example just look at the help file.

Linterp by Peter Elsea.  No example just look at the help file.

On 2/18/07 11:33 AM, "Gary Lee Nelson" wrote:

> And singing the generalization song again...

> Linterp by Peter Elsea. No example just look at the help file.

On 2/18/07 11:33 AM, "Gary Lee Nelson"  wrote:

> And singing the generalization song again...
>
> Linterp by Peter Elsea.  No example just look at the help file.
>
> Cheers
> Gary Lee Nelson
> Oberlin College
> www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
>
>

> solutions that would be more akin to the "flow" of data than

Two objects which seemed obvious for me didn't show up yet:

(won't work on Max 2.2, but scale is easy to haX... ;-)

Gregory Taylor wrote:
> solutions that would be more akin to the "flow" of data than
> expressions....

Two objects which seemed obvious for me didn't show up yet:
scale and modulo...
(won't work on Max 2.2, but scale is easy to haX... ;-)

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Max patching festival: quantized mapping