Bernhard

I really like max 5 a lot, plenty of cool new features. Great work from c74!

But: I really have plenty of random crashes which is really annoying...

Here is a crash report, this happend after double clicking a fairly simple patcher in edit mode, when the object palette come up, audio was on.

Path: /Applications/Max5/MaxMSP.app/Contents/MacOS/MaxMSP

Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000

0 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002d9bbf juce::Component::removeComponentListener(juce::ComponentListener*) + 511

1 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0016f16a PrototypeButtonComponent::~PrototypeButtonComponent() + 56

2 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x001705d4 PatcherClickScreen::clearPrototypeButton() + 28

3 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x00171714 JPatcherHolderComponent::vis() + 80

4 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000ac42d object_method + 901

5 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x001a8cda patcherview_dovisible(_patcherview*, long) + 70

6 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x001a8e6b patcherview_makefrontmost(_patcherview*) + 25

7 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000ac42d object_method + 901

8 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x001ad7bb patcherview_objectpalette(_patcherview*, symbol*, short, atom*) + 403

9 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000d0f49 object_handlecommand + 79

10 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x001b0cee patcherview_command(_patcherview*, symbol*, long, atom*, atom*) + 142

11 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000a98b1 object_method_typed + 127

12 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0018cd47 PatcherComponent::showObjectPalette(juce::MouseEvent const&) + 245

13 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0019904e PatcherComponent::mouseUp(juce::MouseEvent const&) + 340

14 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002e436d juce::Component::internalMouseUp(int, int, int, long long) + 1037

15 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x00422c1d juce::ComponentPeer::handleMouseUp(int, int, int, long long) + 573

16 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0029bf51 juce::juce_dispatchNextMessageOnSystemQueue(bool) + 689

17 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002aaaf3 juce::MessageManager::runDispatchLoop() + 131

18 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002a63ff juce::JUCEApplication::main(juce::String&, juce::JUCEApplication*) + 415

19 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002a662a juce::JUCEApplication::main(int, char**, juce::JUCEApplication*) + 90

20 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x001c5a22 main + 76

21 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x00002742 _start + 216

22 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x00002669 start + 41

0 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95cd6506 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10

1 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d0884f _pthread_cond_wait + 1244

2 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d0a0d3 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47

3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore    0x0122b1ba TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 246

4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore    0x0122af9a TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 422

5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore    0x0125bd48 TimerThread + 74

6 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321

7 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

0 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95cd64a6 mach_msg_trap + 10

1 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95cddc9c mach_msg + 72

2 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI     0x176a2f0f XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 101

3 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI     0x17695477 MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 111

4 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI     0x1769907d XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17

5 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI     0x176a39ee CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96

3 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x00297b19 juce::WaitableEvent::wait(int) const + 105

4 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x003927fb juce::Thread::wait(int) const + 27

5 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002abf09 juce::InternalTimerThread::run() + 345

6 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x00393000 juce::Thread::threadEntryPoint(juce::Thread*) + 272

7 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x00297c21 juce::threadEntryProc(void*) + 17

8 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321

9 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

2 com.apple.CoreFoundation     0x9660b0ce CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790

3 com.apple.CoreFoundation     0x9660bcf8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88

4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     0x903c3464 HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 160

5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     0x903c3300 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96

3 com.apple.CoreFoundation     0x9660bd54 CFRunLoopRun + 84

4 com.apple.DesktopServices     0x9031cebf TSystemNotificationTask::SystemNotificationTaskProc(void*) + 123

5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore    0x0124a463 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56

4 com.apple.DesktopServices     0x9031d038 TFSEventsNotificationTask::FSEventsNotificationTaskProc(void*) + 216

0 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95cdd68e __semwait_signal + 10

1 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d0836d pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73

2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore    0x0124c24f TSWaitOnCondition + 126

3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore    0x0122b18e TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 202

4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore    0x0124becc MPWaitOnQueue + 208

5 com.apple.DesktopServices     0x90327ff6 TNodeSyncTask::SyncTaskProc(void*) + 84

6 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore    0x0124a463 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56

7 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321

8 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

0 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d06f66 kevent + 10

1 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321

2 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

0 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d265e2 select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10

3 com.apple.Foundation     0x92332e8c -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 236

4 com.apple.Foundation     0x92332ca0 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 144

5 com.apple.Foundation     0x92332c05 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:] + 69

6 com.apple.AppKit     0x969f7470 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 753

7 com.apple.Foundation     0x922ecf1d -[NSThread main] + 45

8 com.apple.Foundation     0x922ecac4 __NSThread__main__ + 308

9 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321

10 libSystem.B.dylib     0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     0x903d2a47 CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 213

4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     0x903d4602 CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 70

5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     0x903d2da7 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 759

6 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     0x903d2aab HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 17

7 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     0x903c3300 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):

eax: 0x0000009c ebx: 0x002d99d1 ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0x00000000

edi: 0x2139d6e8 esi: 0x1bb12280 ebp: 0xbffff3b8 esp: 0xbffff380

ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010246 eip: 0x002d9bbf cs: 0x00000017

ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037

But: I really have plenty of random crashes which is really annoying... 

Here is a crash report, this happend after double clicking a fairly simple patcher in edit mode, when the object palette come up, audio was on. 

Process:         MaxMSP [5644]
Path:            /Applications/Max5/MaxMSP.app/Contents/MacOS/MaxMSP
Identifier:      com.cycling74.MaxMSP
Version:         5.0.4 (35808) (5.0.4)
Code Type:       X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [73]

Date/Time:       2008-09-07 20:14:28.937 +0200
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.5.4 (9E17)
Report Version:  6

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread:  0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002d9bbf juce::Component::removeComponentListener(juce::ComponentListener*) + 511
1   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0016f16a PrototypeButtonComponent::~PrototypeButtonComponent() + 56
2   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x001705d4 PatcherClickScreen::clearPrototypeButton() + 28
3   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x00171714 JPatcherHolderComponent::vis() + 80
4   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000ac42d object_method + 901
5   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x001a8cda patcherview_dovisible(_patcherview*, long) + 70
6   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x001a8e6b patcherview_makefrontmost(_patcherview*) + 25
7   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000ac42d object_method + 901
8   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x001ad7bb patcherview_objectpalette(_patcherview*, symbol*, short, atom*) + 403
9   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000d0f49 object_handlecommand + 79
10  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x001b0cee patcherview_command(_patcherview*, symbol*, long, atom*, atom*) + 142
11  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000a98b1 object_method_typed + 127
12  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0018cd47 PatcherComponent::showObjectPalette(juce::MouseEvent const&) + 245
13  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0019904e PatcherComponent::mouseUp(juce::MouseEvent const&) + 340
14  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002e436d juce::Component::internalMouseUp(int, int, int, long long) + 1037
15  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x00422c1d juce::ComponentPeer::handleMouseUp(int, int, int, long long) + 573
16  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0029bf51 juce::juce_dispatchNextMessageOnSystemQueue(bool) + 689
17  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002aaaf3 juce::MessageManager::runDispatchLoop() + 131
18  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002a63ff juce::JUCEApplication::main(juce::String&, juce::JUCEApplication*) + 415
19  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002a662a juce::JUCEApplication::main(int, char**, juce::JUCEApplication*) + 90
20  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x001c5a22 main + 76
21  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x00002742 _start + 216
22  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x00002669 start + 41

Thread 1:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cd6506 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d0884f _pthread_cond_wait + 1244
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d0a0d3 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x0122b1ba TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 246
4   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x0122af9a TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 422
5   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x0125bd48 TimerThread + 74
6   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321
7   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

Thread 2:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cd64a6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cddc9c mach_msg + 72
2   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 	0x176a2f0f XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 101
3   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 	0x17695477 MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 111
4   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 	0x1769907d XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17
5   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 	0x176a39ee CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321
7   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

Thread 3:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cd6506 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d0884f _pthread_cond_wait + 1244
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d0a0d3 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x00297b19 juce::WaitableEvent::wait(int) const + 105
4   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x003927fb juce::Thread::wait(int) const + 27
5   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002abf09 juce::InternalTimerThread::run() + 345
6   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x00393000 juce::Thread::threadEntryPoint(juce::Thread*) + 272
7   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x00297c21 juce::threadEntryProc(void*) + 17
8   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321
9   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cd64a6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cddc9c mach_msg + 72
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x9660b0ce CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x9660bcf8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     	0x903c3464 HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 160
5   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     	0x903c3300 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321
7   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

Thread 5:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cd64a6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cddc9c mach_msg + 72
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x9660b0ce CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x9660bd54 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4   com.apple.DesktopServices     	0x9031cebf TSystemNotificationTask::SystemNotificationTaskProc(void*) + 123
5   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x0124a463 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
6   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321
7   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cd64a6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cddc9c mach_msg + 72
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x9660b0ce CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x9660bd54 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4   com.apple.DesktopServices     	0x9031d038 TFSEventsNotificationTask::FSEventsNotificationTaskProc(void*) + 216
5   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x0124a463 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
6   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321
7   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

Thread 7:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cdd68e __semwait_signal + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d0836d pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x0124c24f TSWaitOnCondition + 126
3   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x0122b18e TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 202
4   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x0124becc MPWaitOnQueue + 208
5   com.apple.DesktopServices     	0x90327ff6 TNodeSyncTask::SyncTaskProc(void*) + 84
6   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x0124a463 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
7   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321
8   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

Thread 8:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d06f66 kevent + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

Thread 9:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d265e2 select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

Thread 10:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cd6506 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d0884f _pthread_cond_wait + 1244
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d0a0d3 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3   com.apple.Foundation          	0x92332e8c -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 236
4   com.apple.Foundation          	0x92332ca0 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 144
5   com.apple.Foundation          	0x92332c05 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:] + 69
6   com.apple.AppKit              	0x969f7470 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 753
7   com.apple.Foundation          	0x922ecf1d -[NSThread main] + 45
8   com.apple.Foundation          	0x922ecac4 __NSThread__main__ + 308
9   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321
10  libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

Thread 11:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cd6506 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d0884f _pthread_cond_wait + 1244
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d0a0d3 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     	0x903d2a47 CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 213
4   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     	0x903d4602 CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 70
5   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     	0x903d2da7 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 759
6   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     	0x903d2aab HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 17
7   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     	0x903c3300 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
8   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321
9   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

Thread 12:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95cd6506 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d0884f _pthread_cond_wait + 1244
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d0a0d3 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     	0x903d2a47 CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 213
4   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     	0x903d4602 CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 70
5   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     	0x903d2da7 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 759
6   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     	0x903d2aab HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 17
7   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio     	0x903c3300 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
8   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d076f5 _pthread_start + 321
9   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x95d075b2 thread_start + 34

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
  eax: 0x0000009c  ebx: 0x002d99d1  ecx: 0x00000000  edx: 0x00000000
  edi: 0x2139d6e8  esi: 0x1bb12280  ebp: 0xbffff3b8  esp: 0xbffff380
   ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0x00010246  eip: 0x002d9bbf   cs: 0x00000017
   ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x00000037
  cr2: 0x00000000


max5-random-crashes

https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=35469&start=0&rid=3434&S=0ee36875c06270ca3d5b5c439a4d3108

maybe this will help:
https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=35469&start=0&rid=3434&S=0ee36875c06270ca3d5b5c439a4d3108


Thanks for the crash report. I don't see any reason this crash should happen. It is possible that something went bad and corrupted some random memory.

If you are getting a lot of different random crashes then you may want to discuss with support what objects you are using and how you are using them to try and isolate what might be causing the corruption.

If this same crash happens often then please try to come up with steps to help us reproduce the crash.

Thanks for the crash report.  I don't see any reason this crash should happen.  It is possible that something went bad and corrupted some random memory. 

If you are getting a lot of different random crashes then you may want to discuss with support what objects you are using and how you are using them to try and isolate what might be causing the corruption. 

thanks for the reply. The problem with random crahses is,ahem, they are random... but I am happy to track this down. I'll keep sending crash reports to support, hopefully they can find a pattern to reproduce.

yes well I will admit that me too , just like you !

completly random ect... even on pretty simple patches !! it really is doing my head in !!! + I am on a MAC Quad with plenty of memory ,

I still have not figured it out , I guess I should send a crash report too

I am starting to think that it may not be max , but something with my mac , but I am no expert . any suggetions would be god send to me !!!!

I still have not figured it out , I guess I should send a crash report too 

I am starting to think that it may not be max , but something with my mac , but I am no expert .  any suggetions would be god send to me !!!!


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