mollyb

I'm trying to figure out how to rewire my guitar in order to send electromagnetic pulses to the pickups (rather than from) in order to control the instrument. it is similar to the piano project at ccrma...

I'm trying to figure out how to rewire my guitar in order to send electromagnetic pulses to the pickups (rather than from) in order to control the instrument.  it is similar to the piano project at ccrma...


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maybe a link to the project might help? Just a vague suggestion on my behalf.

what are you thinking the EM pulses to the guitar are going to do? i 

extended technique guitar work (multiple pickups, induction mics, 

you are rebuilding the guitar from the ground up, sending EM to the 

do much. i have used EM to generate sounds with pickups though...

"Flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

what are you thinking the EM pulses to the guitar are going to do? i  
do a lot of
extended technique guitar work (multiple pickups, induction mics,  
etc) but unless
you are rebuilding the guitar from the ground up, sending EM to the  
pickups won't
do much. i have used EM to generate sounds with pickups though...
cheers
bruce

"Flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Douglas Adams

"EM to generate sounds with pickups though"

Actually, that is very interesting, can you 

go into a little more detail as to how you 

Actually, that is very interesting, can you 
go into a little more detail as to how you 
are doing this.

very simple. take any EM producing device, like a small motor, cell or

such, and move it around your pickups. i can get interesting drones

holding my guitar near my laptop and moving it around. have fun.

"Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane."

very simple. take any EM producing device, like a small motor, cell or
such, and move it around your pickups. i can get interesting drones
holding my guitar near my laptop and moving it around. have fun.
b

"Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane."
Philip K. Dick

with maybe a max controlled servo to adjust the distance to the strings?

Are you looking for the "backwards electric guitar", as the one Nicolas

Sounds are sent _into_ guitar pickups whose fluctuating electromatgnetic

fields vibrate the strings of the guitar!

Are you looking for the "backwards electric guitar", as the one Nicolas
Collins made in the 80's?

Sounds are sent _into_ guitar pickups whose fluctuating electromatgnetic
fields vibrate the strings of the guitar!

> I'm trying to figure out how to rewire my guitar in order to send 

> electromagnetic pulses to the pickups (rather than from) in order to

Technically it would work like an ebow, but instead of human controlled

it would be Max controlled.... You will have to build it yourself, as

the distance which is necessary to make it sound would be very close,

compared to the distance of the pickups. It will render your guitar

usless for other playing techniques and It will be hard implement, as

playing the ebow requires a good listening feedback and constant change 

of the distance. The reaction is slow, most players also touch the 

strings. The sound is usually a combination of the string sound and some 

induction into the normal pickups - nice distortions...

What kind of sound and control are you after?

> it is similar to the piano project at ccrma...

You might think all the world knows about it, but I don't. CCRMA's site

is big and I could not find the project. (Links are handy)

molly wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out how to rewire my guitar in order to send 
> electromagnetic pulses to the pickups (rather than from) in order to
> control the instrument.

Technically it would work like an ebow, but instead of human controlled
it would be Max controlled.... You will have to build it yourself, as
the distance which is necessary to make it sound would be very close,
compared to the distance of the pickups. It will render your guitar
usless for other playing techniques and It will be hard implement, as
playing the ebow requires a good listening feedback and constant change 
of the distance. The reaction is slow, most players also touch the 
strings. The sound is usually a combination of the string sound and some 
induction into the normal pickups - nice distortions...

You might think all the world knows about it, but I don't. CCRMA's site
is big and I could not find the project. (Links are handy)

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On Jun 14, 2006, at 6:27 AM, Sukandar Kartadinata wrote:

i can personally vouch for the Fernandes Sustainer guitar system.

i use one as my main instrument and it beats the ebow hands down.

of course, there are many things you can do with an ebow that the

sustainer can't do - like use it on other instruments (i love it on my

acoustic hawaiian lap guitar) - so having both is a good idea.

"Reality is whatever refuses to go away when I stop believing in it.."

> http://www.sustainiac.com/stealth.htm
>
> dunno if they're still made though....

i can personally vouch for the Fernandes Sustainer guitar system.
i use one as my main instrument and it beats the ebow hands down.
of course, there are many things you can do with an ebow that the
sustainer can't do - like use it on other instruments (i love it on my
acoustic hawaiian lap guitar) - so having both is a good idea.
cheers
bruce

"Reality is whatever refuses to go away when I stop believing in it.."
Philip K. Dick

According to guitar hero and hippie legend Steve

Hillage, vibrators make good induction devices for

coaxing strange noises out of, er, guitars. I'm not

sure how you would control one with Max, but there

are probably websites that will tell you how ...

According to guitar hero and hippie legend Steve
Hillage, vibrators make good induction devices for
coaxing strange noises out of, er, guitars. I'm not
sure how you would control one with Max, but  there
are probably websites that will tell you how ...
cheers
Roger


The most brilliant msp/guitar improv performances I've seen have been

The most brilliant msp/guitar improv performances I've seen have been
done by Hans Tammen: http://www.tammen.org/ .

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