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Please Help! Being taught PureData but want to apply it in Max!


thisisdjkaz
Mar 13 2012 | 6:01 pm

Hi guys,

First I’d like to introduce myself and give a little background info. I’m a student in DKIT in Ireland studying a Masters in Music Technology. I own Max for Live and for my Master Project I intend to use Max For Live to create a plug-in or plug-ins. I don’t actually own Max/MSP on it’s own but I do own Max For Live and find it work fine.

So to my dilemma..

This semester I’m taking a module called Interactive Systems and the Lecture is teaching PureData in the class. I want to learn Max and do the tasks/assignments in Max. The lecturer is being sound about the whole thing and has no problem me doing them in Max as they are so similar but I have come across a few differences in class when he’s teaching it and also in the weekly tasks. I was wondering if theres any advice you guys could give me when it comes to learning PureData and applying it to Max. Maybe a guide or object translator or something ?? I’ve tried searching around but have found minimal help!

I’ve seen a few arguments between using PureData and using Max/MSP, but they don’t help my situation.

I would appreciate any help!

Keith


brendan mccloskey
Mar 13 2012 | 7:14 pm

Hi
greets from Belfast (I taught at DKIT briefly many years ago).

Yeah, a flame war on PD v. Max doesn’t lead anywhere, and you’re right that a "PD to Max" object translator would help, so can I recommend this:

Max5
http://cycling74.com/docs/max5/vignettes/core/msp_functional.html

If you’re using Max6, go here and click on the Objects tab
http://cycling74.com/docs/max6/dynamic/c74_docs.html#docintro

No doubt your lecturer has directed you here too:
http://www.pd-tutorial.com/english/index.html

If you’re grasping the basic concepts and can describe the function of a specific PD object, many here should be able to suggest a Max analogue.

Good luck
Brendan


roger.carruthers
Mar 13 2012 | 7:37 pm

You may also be interested in this post http://www.cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=31276
and you will definitely find Stefan Tiedje’s PD Abhaxions useful; http://cycling74.com/toolbox/tiedje-stools/
Cheers
Roger


thisisdjkaz
Mar 15 2012 | 12:33 pm

Thanks for the help guys, really appreciate it. I’m using Max 5 so I’ll use that object listing you suggested Brendan and cross reference it with the PD notes I’m given. Also what exactly is that second link about Roger?

Thanks guys if I run into any problems should I post on this thread or start a new one?

Keith


roger.carruthers
Mar 15 2012 | 3:05 pm

Stephan’s Abhaxions is a collection of useful abstractions that include a bunch of replacements for PD objects – they use the same names (prefaced with pd. iirc) so you can make straightforward substitutions.
And as they’re abstractions, you can open them by double-clicking to see how the magic is done – bargain!
Cheers
Roger

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