Please Help! Being taught PureData but want to apply it in Max!

thisisdjkaz's icon

Hi guys,

First I'd like to introduce myself and give a little background info. I'm a student in DKIT in Ireland studying a Masters in Music Technology. I own Max for Live and for my Master Project I intend to use Max For Live to create a plug-in or plug-ins. I don't actually own Max/MSP on it's own but I do own Max For Live and find it work fine.

So to my dilemma..

This semester I'm taking a module called Interactive Systems and the Lecture is teaching PureData in the class. I want to learn Max and do the tasks/assignments in Max. The lecturer is being sound about the whole thing and has no problem me doing them in Max as they are so similar but I have come across a few differences in class when he's teaching it and also in the weekly tasks. I was wondering if theres any advice you guys could give me when it comes to learning PureData and applying it to Max. Maybe a guide or object translator or something ?? I've tried searching around but have found minimal help!

I've seen a few arguments between using PureData and using Max/MSP, but they don't help my situation.

I would appreciate any help!

Keith

brendan mccloskey's icon

Hi
greets from Belfast (I taught at DKIT briefly many years ago).

Yeah, a flame war on PD v. Max doesn't lead anywhere, and you're right that a "PD to Max" object translator would help, so can I recommend this:

If you're using Max6, go here and click on the Objects tab
https://cycling74.com/docs/max6/dynamic/c74_docs.html#docintro

No doubt your lecturer has directed you here too:
http://www.pd-tutorial.com/english/index.html

If you're grasping the basic concepts and can describe the function of a specific PD object, many here should be able to suggest a Max analogue.

Good luck
Brendan

roger.carruthers's icon

You may also be interested in this post https://cycling74.com/forums/max-analogs-for-pds-bp-and-hip
and you will definitely find Stefan Tiedje's PD Abhaxions useful; https://cycling74.com/tools/tiedje-stools/
Cheers
Roger

thisisdjkaz's icon

Thanks for the help guys, really appreciate it. I'm using Max 5 so I'll use that object listing you suggested Brendan and cross reference it with the PD notes I'm given. Also what exactly is that second link about Roger?

Thanks guys if I run into any problems should I post on this thread or start a new one?

Keith

roger.carruthers's icon

Stephan's Abhaxions is a collection of useful abstractions that include a bunch of replacements for PD objects - they use the same names (prefaced with pd. iirc) so you can make straightforward substitutions.
And as they're abstractions, you can open them by double-clicking to see how the magic is done - bargain!
Cheers
Roger