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Pluggo plug-in makes Ableton Live crash bigtime

August 16, 2010 | 7:36 pm

hi everybody, i made a super simple pluggo patch, just to
test it in Live. just one parameter (pp) to adjust volume
but everytime i load it in Live and adjust the slider live crashes
completely. anyone have any idea what’s this about?
thanx alot, greets tom

August 16, 2010 | 7:45 pm

(my guess from another thread: the pluggo objects had the same names Max4Live(m4L) now has, maybe Live is expecting those objects to apply in an M4L context, while you’re still applying them in a Pluggo context; test your Pluggo in an environment besides Ableton to make sure this isn’t just specific to how Ableton deals with those objects as a result of the new addition of M4L)

August 16, 2010 | 8:41 pm

thanx again for replying. sorry for the doubly thread :) i had sort of simultaneously posted them, thus the double.
i’m not within reach of another daw at the moment but will try asap. is that m4l addition already in ableton live 7? because i use live 7 still.

August 16, 2010 | 8:47 pm

"thus the double…." no worries.

"is that m4l addition already in ableton live 7?"
unfortunately, no, it’s for live8 but there are special deals if you own other versions of live or if you own max, etc.:

August 16, 2010 | 8:55 pm

hmmm… then i suppose the pluggo problem wouldn’t be the m4l addition in my case. greetz

August 16, 2010 | 9:26 pm

ok… so now i loaded the little plugin in the vst object in max, and the same thing happens. max crashes in just the same way that live crashed earlier on. can it be that i have to install some special pluggo package or something? thanx

August 16, 2010 | 10:13 pm

don’t know, try posting your pluggo patch here, too, maybe someone will find something else that’ll help…

August 17, 2010 | 12:56 am

show us the patcher

August 17, 2010 | 3:27 pm

excuse the delay, it was night time here :) , here’s the little patch:

(edit: by the way, i had compiled the ‘plugin’ objects help file to a .dll and it worked fine as a delay effect, without any parameters)

  1. volumeplug.pat
August 17, 2010 | 11:18 pm

nooooot good.

– use the first output
– connect the slider back to the pp, too.

August 19, 2010 | 10:02 am

hi roman, thanx, that makes sense, i apparently overlooked it in the help file. is there a pluggo tutorial that you know of? or you reckon i should be alright with the helpfiles?

August 19, 2010 | 8:36 pm

there should be a pluggo development pdf from cycling74 .

i *think* i got mine with my boxed pluggo version 2.0 back in the days.

btw, you also need to have a [plugconfig] in you patch and give the plug an ID
number other than beginning with 128 (to make it work in most hosts)

August 19, 2010 | 9:05 pm

riiiight!! that should be the problem! because i try’d your suggestion ,and still it kept crashing. so i’ll try the config then. (i’m gonna have to upgrade to max 5 and max4live sometime, but still i really like the pluggo thing) thanx alot

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