questions about java vs max

f.e's icon

I got a process divided in four parts : clock / timing maintenance,
recording, buffer manipulation and playback. Buffer manipulation is in
Java, all the remaining is max only. I would like to have the whole
process into one single object (would be Java in this case) but i
remember : Be carefull with that axe, Eugene (sorry, be carefull with
timing in Java).

- Clock subpatch is dealing with tempo, metros, beats, and counters
(lots of) : would it be ok to be implemented in Java (i know, i know,
browse the archives) ?
- recording doesn't really matter (record~ is ok), but what about
recording to disk with Java (just for info) ?
- does a Java playback object reading a buffer~ would be efficient as a
max only object ?
- Simply : does a Java object dealing with MSP can stand against MSP only ?

The whole things would be used as many as you need sound tracks, so it
could make a lot...

Thanks for your advices & cheers

f.e
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langsound's icon

f.e.
there is a java based tool kit for doing this kinda thing.
JMSL (java music specification language)
you can find it at www.algomusic.com

i recently worked with the main developer of JMSL on classes and max
patches that would allow for easy JMSL control of MSP patches.

-lcc

Ignotus's icon

Every time you cross from the Java world to the C++ world of MaxMSP
code you pay a price--elsewhere in the list I have seen this pegged at
2.5 milliseconds in MacOS. I suspect it is similar on PCs.

ISTR that Jitter Tutotrial Patch 38jPerformanceSetup.pat provides an
example of how Java can be optimized--to a point--to get around this.
It seems to be a System-level problem, not easily solved by tweaking
MaxMSP code--ie.e, not likely to get better in the future--unless
Cylcling74 has made some Great Discovery.

So, the answer to your question is that there are definite performance
limits on what Java can do. MaxsMSP and externals written in C++ will
not have the same latency problem. Though it is relatively small, it
can have a serious cumulative effect.

-- Paul

f.e's icon

so, choosing Java to write an external designed to do looping playback from a buffer~ is not an issue ? especially if you plan to you use dozen of it in a single patch ?

f.e