rate multipliers

jirko's icon

Inside the rate reference is an image with a little patch that includes a coll file with the multipliers for the rate object.

Is this patch somewhere on the hard drive? I'm looking for the coll file and the pop-up menu data.

Thanks!

ch's icon

for the menu data :

right click on a umenu ->prototypes->M4L.notevalues.Live

jirko's icon

sure, that works if it's a max patch, but not for a jpeg :)

ch's icon

...?

just do it in a patch, and your umenu will have the same data as the one that is shown in the rate reference.

jirko's icon

This is not a question about how to setup a umenu, I need all the rate multipliers. I'm looking for the coll file.
f.e.

1/8t => 0.6667 (like in the jpeg)
1/16t => ?
...

ch's icon

>> I'm looking for the coll file and the pop-up menu data.

Sorry, I thought that "pop-up menu data" referred to the menu items.

seejayjames's icon

the coll data might be saved with the patcher, so it wouldn't be a separate file.

if there aren't that many rates, couldn't you calculate them by hand? (and by hand, of course, I mean with Max objects :)

still, I looked around for where that jpg came from and couldn't find it. possibly an old version of the rate~ helpfile.

jirko's icon

@seejayjames sure, if someone tells me the formula :)

pid's icon
Max Patch
Copy patch and select New From Clipboard in Max.

i am loathe to post this in some ways for fear of public embarrassment at having totally misunderstood the issue here, but this thread has been confusing me. isn't this something related to what you want jirko?:

seejayjames's icon

not entirely sure. the pic shows eighth-note triplet = 0.6667. so sixteenth-note triplet would be 0.3333 and so on. the triplet values will be these "thirds" kind of numbers, the duple values should be 0.5, 0.25, 0.125 etc.

Though I would have thought that a quarter-note would be 1.0, and therefore the quarter-note triplet would be 0.6667. Maybe the eighth-note is the 1.0?

jirko's icon

thanks!