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Run max as a standalone on a tablet such as an ipad WITHOUT any laptop in the loop

receive sensor data over wifi from this sensor board: 

I know that it is possible to do in Pure Data all of it, but as far as I can see MIRA only really works, if there is a laptop in the loop, which I think is quite old fashioned and clunky.

receive sensor data over wifi from this sensor board: http://www.x-io.co.uk/products/x-osc/
on the actual tablet.

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Hey, no. It probably will not be possible in a foreseeable future.

That is really too sad. I will become a pure data user and drop max msp.

... so you're *absolutely* sure you can run PureData standalone on an ipad?

@wetterberg:for now there is already mobmuplat, which includes nearly all the functionalities of pd vanilla plus some other things. It's quite awesome in itself. A full-fledged pd vanilla gui is available on Android (mPD),and i was told some people are working on an ios version of this.

@wetterberg:for now there is already mobmuplat, which includes nearly all the functionalities of pd vanilla plus some other things.  It's quite awesome in itself. A full-fledged pd vanilla gui is available on Android (mPD),and i was told some people are working on an ios version of this.


I wouldn't say that the MIRA solution is "old fashioned and clunky"; you're comparing apples and oranges. Peter Kirn recently did a write up about the Max 7 release that makes this very point...

I don’t think there’s any doubt: Max is now the patching environment to beat, by far. Nothing else is anywhere close to this broad, and now nothing comes anywhere close to being this usable.

...Pure Data (Pd) is a different animal. Max 7 is another reminder of why we need Pd. Even though both originally leapt from the mind of Miller Puckette, they’ve evolved into radically distinct beasts. It’s a bit like coming back to Galapagos Island after twenty years and finding one of your turtles has evolved into a space dragon while the other one became a washer/dryer. It isn’t just that Pd is free and open source software, it’s that it’s engineered in such a way that makes that an advantage. Pd is tiny, even as Max is huge. That makes Pd well-suited to embedding in apps and games, mobile and desktop, software and hardware, when Max can do nothing of the sort. Max 7 is also, however, a painful reminder that Pd needs a new UI. Maybe it should also be minimal (a Web-powered UI would sure make sense). But the time is now. (And a desktop Pd really wants plug-in hosting, but that’s another story.) My dream at the moment would certainly be that each becomes effortless enough to use that I can spend some proper quality time in both.

There's no reason that you can't be using both, depending on the project.

mobmoplat isn't standalone,as far as I can tell - It's essentially a libpd gui editor, much like the Lemur app, only "pd-looking", if you catch my drift. It expressly connects *to* a pd patch.

I'd love to see an ios version of PD, but I really haven't seen it yet.

Oh, and mPD is pretty ace - it's not at all stable, and I can't get it to work, but man, just running it on my OnePlus1 is fun in itself.

I'd love to see an ios version of PD, but I really haven't seen it yet.
Oh, and mPD is pretty ace - it's not at all stable, and I can't get it to work, but man, just running it on my OnePlus1 is fun in itself.


Depends what you call "tablet". If you are just looking to run Max on an iPad, probably not. If you want to run Max on a similar size (or smaller, and most likely cheaper) tablet that's not an iPad, yes. We've been using/testing a variety of tablets, including an 8" thinkpad (for example) running windows 8 and have had pretty good success...including some pretty CPU/GPU intensive graphics and openCV object detection algorithms all within Max. The challenge is finding tablets that run full windows desktop (i.e. not RT), which in turn will run Max.

@wetterburg Mobmumat connects to a pd patch which runs on the device, including ios.

Pddroidparty is similar - you can also create standalone apps with it.

There is an ios equivalent, pdparty, but I've not tried it.

@wetterburg Mobmumat connects to a pd patch which runs on the device, including ios.
Pddroidparty is similar - you can also create standalone apps with it.
There is an ios equivalent, pdparty, but I've not tried it.


@wetterberg : by standalone, i meant exactly what Gavspav said ; sure you don't patch with mobmuplat on your device but really, the gui patches feel beautiful and stable enough and are quite straightforward to create (compared to a pd-only patch) and in the end your pd patches do run on your device without a computer connected, which is nice. mPD is very promising indeed :-)

What I meant by Standalone was that in PdDroidParty you can create a standalone app from your patch - you can even put it in the Play Store if you want. With MobMuPlat I think you always need the app to load your patches.

Hi everyone, I'm the developer of MobMuPlat. A little bit of belated clarification...

As already described by other posts, PdDroidParty and MobMuPlat both wrap around a Pure Data patch (using libpd), and connect to device hardware/sensors/etc. Generating a standalone app (that another developer can sell in an app store), is possible with both PdParty and MobMuPlat, but is currently much simpler with PdParty than with MobMuPlat. In both cases, you must download the source code, add your custom files, and then re-build (and digitally sign) the application. This is far simpler on Android (which has easily available command-line tools for building) than iOS (which is only doable within XCode, and you must have an Apple Developer license, pay money, etc). Thus, someone comfortable with source code can package a standalone iOS or Android app with MobMuPlat, but it involves editing a few lines of code (to specify your patch, and disable the startup animation/menu), and thus I haven't really advertised it as a feature (feel free to message me for details); this may become simpler in the future (at least on the Android version of MobMuPlat). Personal two cents: unless you wish to monetize your app (which is difficult without a slick custom interface), or are paranoid about people looking at your patch, I feel that installing mobmuplat/pddroidparty and sharing your patch is much simpler (and more open) for many users...but that's the open-source ethos poking through.

Running max map on a tablet