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Seeking tutor in the North Bay Area – San Francisco

Nov 18 2008 | 5:41 pm


I’m pretty new to Max and want to make a looper. I’m looking for a experienced tutor that can guide me thought. I live by Santa Rosa an hour from San Francisco. Contact me to Talk $ I’ll pay based on result and fairly.


Nov 18 2008 | 6:03 pm

hello there,

i’m not in the bay area, and probably no really experienced tutor neither, but i am doing a multilooper, if mainly for myself.
out of sheer curiosity it would be interesting to know about, what kind of specs you would expect from a looper, that you can build yourself.

jrp (in berlin)

Nov 18 2008 | 6:32 pm

Hi JayRope,

I believe that loopers will be one of a few new instruments coming to the near future of music and the biggest specs to me are, ease of use and forgiveness.

(BTW your name is very similar to my real name! I go by Jvrop a lot)


Nov 18 2008 | 6:40 pm

ha, nice way to say it, but obviously that wouldn’t help me to help (when technical specs are needed to develop accordingly).

my real name’s janek, that’s about as near as it could get in central europe. are you czech?

so, anyways, if you eventually come up with a feature list, then i’d be interested to read it and eventually give some features a shot developping them.

greets from berlin

Nov 18 2008 | 7:02 pm

Well My main concern is to know if Max is able to handle this:

– push a rec button.
– record the sound in a audio file (not an array)
– push a stop button
– loop the recorded file with no delay

– do this lots of time and keep all the file synchronized in reference of the recorded position with the file previously played.

– then have a way to trigger each recorded file separately.

What do you think?

I was born and raised in france and my last name is Ropert.

Is your work somewhere, i could check out?


Nov 18 2008 | 8:27 pm

Hey Jvrop,

all of your mentioned specs are no problem to establish, in fact that is, what works with my looper already, besides about a zillion other features.
but: it is controlled by a wii remote.
i’ll let you know, when it is ready for use (maybe in ten days).

why do you want to get into computing max, when you can actually buy hardware devices performing your specs, which won’ distract your playing with a big screen you had to look at?

You can hear most of my works and projects on the webcast of you’ll note, that i am not into one particular musical style, and my musical interest is clearly non-algorhythmical one could say.

Ah, la France.

Had a wonderful time two years ago in Bordeaux.
When i came back to Berlin i got to know a family, whose 5 members all got hit by a lightning on top of the dune de Pila.

It’s true.

What made you go to S.F.?

Speak soon, jrp

Nov 18 2008 | 9:23 pm

G the lightning! Where they all right after? where they holding a huge metal rod toward the sky or just got unlucky … I hope they are fine.

I can’t wait for your patch to be done I’d love to test it, the wii remote is a great interface. (you probably know about the loop machine)

I haven’t find the hardware that would do exactly what i want, i own a boss loop pedal but it is too limited to excite my wildest dreams.

I checked out your sound and it is wild, I relay to your style. Berlin sound like a happening place.

I moved to California for the sun man, the sun!

wanna here some noise? here is myspace stuff.

Keep me posted.

Take care.

Nov 26 2008 | 5:32 am

you can download Livid Looper, an open source max patch:
it will likely do many of the things you want and you can build on it in a non-invasive modular way. It’s pretty well documented, and every patch is explained in the manual.


Nov 26 2008 | 1:03 pm

Nov 26 2008 | 1:14 pm

Strange, I had no problems downloading the Max source.


Nov 26 2008 | 3:11 pm

Couldn’t download source myself. LH, do you happen to still have it?
Would be interesting to look into eventually.

Thank you very much!


Nov 26 2008 | 3:13 pm

Try this.


Nov 26 2008 | 3:38 pm



Nov 26 2008 | 11:25 pm

woops! we’ll fix that link. Try here:


Nov 26 2008 | 11:26 pm

woops! we’ll fix that link. Try here:


Nov 27 2008 | 12:00 am

Nice one, thank you!


Nov 27 2008 | 12:02 am

pnyboer, on another note i was wondering:

if that looper is open source, where is the base for it’s development?

when people have ideas to develop this they’d need to find a dedicated forum to do so. i couldn’t find any on the website and would be very pleased to hear there is a page, where developers gather, sourceforge or on your site!

thanks much!


Nov 27 2008 | 12:18 am

Might be elsewhere, too, but I think you can right-click on the MacOSX Looper application, select "Show Package Contents" and then snoop around in the "ForLooperBuild" folder as well as the LividLooper.mxf collective all within the package. But check out the "LividLooper Manual.pdf" on page 8 under the section, "About The Max Patch" for detailed info. on the various patches that make up the entire build.

Nov 27 2008 | 12:20 am

oh and there are forums here:

Nov 27 2008 | 12:40 am

that one i’ve been waiting for, thanx.

when i tried downloading their = deadly linked = source, i had assumed they were using the term "open source" only for the benefit of selling their pay products.

admittedly a looper, which automatically adjusts my newly loops to the timeline, seems a bit "IDM", not what i was looking for.

but it’s always good to see what people like to have built into their applications as additional fx. a (rarely useful) ring mod and a delay is a bit thin… so i wondered what users request. or what i would request as well.


Nov 27 2008 | 7:26 pm

Yes, a open source distro with code checkout would be good, so the source would be evolving, rather than multiplying. Someday…
As for effects, I wanted to keep it simple so it’s easy-ish to learn, use and maintain. There’s a VST bin in there if you want something more exotic!

Nov 27 2008 | 7:46 pm

> There’s a VST bin in there if you want something more exotic!

Ha. I always thought VST was nearest the opposite of "exotic".
Anything we write ourselves is per definition exotic, just because usually the author is the only one who has it/uses it.

Good to have a simple looper, in any case. Lotsa people *here as well* just want to loop, not really learn about the intestines of MAX. And that’s understandable, at last it is about how much time one wants to spend tweaking algorhythms on simple matters.

I can’t look into your source, because i am on max 4.63, nevertheless, what kind of pitching idea do you use for the livid looper? And is it really wishful to adjust loop lengths automatically to be all synced as a default?
Personally i like it, when it is unsynced as a default, with an option to slave/master freely between loopers.


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