hello there,

i’m not in the bay area, and probably no really experienced tutor neither, but i am doing a multilooper, if mainly for myself.
out of sheer curiosity it would be interesting to know about, what kind of specs you would expect from a looper, that you can build yourself.

jrp (in berlin)

ha, nice way to say it, but obviously that wouldn’t help me to help (when technical specs are needed to develop accordingly).

my real name’s janek, that’s about as near as it could get in central europe. are you czech?

so, anyways, if you eventually come up with a feature list, then i’d be interested to read it and eventually give some features a shot developping them.

greets from berlin
jrp

Hey Jvrop,

all of your mentioned specs are no problem to establish, in fact that is, what works with my looper already, besides about a zillion other features.
but: it is controlled by a wii remote.
i’ll let you know, when it is ready for use (maybe in ten days).

why do you want to get into computing max, when you can actually buy hardware devices performing your specs, which won’ distract your playing with a big screen you had to look at?

You can hear most of my works and projects on the webcast of kliklak.net. you’ll note, that i am not into one particular musical style, and my musical interest is clearly non-algorhythmical one could say.

…

Ah, la France.

Had a wonderful time two years ago in Bordeaux.
When i came back to Berlin i got to know a family, whose 5 members all got hit by a lightning on top of the dune de Pila.

It’s true.

What made you go to S.F.?

Speak soon, jrp

you can download Livid Looper, an open source max patch:
http://www.lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php
it will likely do many of the things you want and you can build on it in a non-invasive modular way. It’s pretty well documented, and every patch is explained in the manual.

Pboer

Strange, I had no problems downloading the Max source.

lh

Try this.

lh

woops! we’ll fix that link. Try here:
http://www.lividinstruments.com/support_downloads.php#looper

pboer

Nice one, thank you!

jrp

Might be elsewhere, too, but I think you can right-click on the MacOSX Looper application, select "Show Package Contents" and then snoop around in the "ForLooperBuild" folder as well as the LividLooper.mxf collective all within the package. But check out the "LividLooper Manual.pdf" on page 8 under the section, "About The Max Patch" for detailed info. on the various patches that make up the entire build.

that one i’ve been waiting for, thanx.

when i tried downloading their = deadly linked = source, i had assumed they were using the term "open source" only for the benefit of selling their pay products.

admittedly a looper, which automatically adjusts my newly loops to the timeline, seems a bit "IDM", not what i was looking for.

but it’s always good to see what people like to have built into their applications as additional fx. a (rarely useful) ring mod and a delay is a bit thin… so i wondered what users request. or what i would request as well.

jrp

> There’s a VST bin in there if you want something more exotic!

Ha. I always thought VST was nearest the opposite of "exotic".
Anything we write ourselves is per definition exotic, just because usually the author is the only one who has it/uses it.

Good to have a simple looper, in any case. Lotsa people *here as well* just want to loop, not really learn about the intestines of MAX. And that’s understandable, at last it is about how much time one wants to spend tweaking algorhythms on simple matters.

I can’t look into your source, because i am on max 4.63, nevertheless, what kind of pitching idea do you use for the livid looper? And is it really wishful to adjust loop lengths automatically to be all synced as a default?
Personally i like it, when it is unsynced as a default, with an option to slave/master freely between loopers.

jrp