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Has anyone got any experience with using a MOTU Traveler or Ultra Lite for very long periods in a row (several days).

This is for an art installation (using Max) and I need to make sure that the MOTU traveler is stable for long periods of use. This would be under Mac OSX tiger.

Would anyone recommend another firewire-based soundcard which is good for sound installations ? (with a least 8 output channels).

Has anyone got any experience with using a MOTU Traveler or Ultra Lite  for very long periods in a row (several days).

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I've used Travelers in a museum installation with bad results. The 

units(3) would loose their settings (mike preamp gain etc) every once 

in a while, and worse, would suddenly produce high pitched noise that 

on one occasion burned the tweeters of a speaker pair. The high 

pitched noise trouble is easily fixed by manually resetting the unit, 

but this is not an option in an installation.

I've discussed these problems at length with Motu tech support, 

without much result. I swapped the first 2 Travelers for a second 

pair, and ditched nr 3 for an 828. Unfortunately the second pair of 

The MOTU 828 mk2 has been totally reliable for me in all circumstances 

(heavy touring, installations). I also have great faith in Metric 

Op 26-okt-2006, om 23:53 heeft Gui Pot het volgende geschreven:

> Has anyone got any experience with using a MOTU Traveler or Ultra 

> Lite for very long periods in a row (several days).

> This is for an art installation (using Max) and I need to make sure 

> that the MOTU traveler is stable for long periods of use. This 

> Would anyone recommend another firewire-based soundcard which is 

> good for sound installations ? (with a least 8 output channels).

I've used Travelers in a museum installation with bad results. The  
units(3) would loose their settings (mike preamp gain etc) every once  
in a while, and worse, would suddenly produce high pitched noise that  
on one occasion burned the tweeters of a speaker pair. The high  
pitched noise trouble is easily fixed by manually resetting the unit,  
but this is not an option in an installation.

I've discussed these problems at length with Motu tech support,  
without much result. I swapped the first 2 Travelers for a second  
pair, and ditched nr 3 for an 828. Unfortunately the second pair of  
Travelers had the same problems.

The MOTU 828 mk2 has been totally reliable for me in all circumstances 
(heavy touring, installations). I also have great faith in Metric  
Halo stuff.

Zip Boterbloem
Media Mechanics
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2025 VR  Haarlem
The Netherlands
+31627014758
zip@knoware.nl

>
> Hello,
>
> Has anyone got any experience with using a MOTU Traveler or Ultra  
> Lite  for very long periods in a row (several days).
>
> This is for an art installation (using Max) and I need to make sure  
> that the MOTU traveler is stable for long periods of use. This  
> would be under Mac OSX tiger.
>
> Would anyone recommend another firewire-based soundcard which is  
> good for sound installations ? (with a least 8 output channels).
>
> Thank you.
>
> GP
>


Es war der 27.10.2006 0:18 Uhr, als Zip Boterbloem nicht widerstehen konnte,

folgende Gedanken dem Netz anzuvertrauen:

> I've used Travelers in a museum installation with bad results. The

> units(3) would loose their settings (mike preamp gain etc) every once

> in a while, and worse, would suddenly produce high pitched noise that

> on one occasion burned the tweeters of a speaker pair. The high

> pitched noise trouble is easily fixed by manually resetting the unit,

> but this is not an option in an installation.

I have the same experiences with the traveler. The high pitched noise

happens sometimes, at least with my Intel MacBook and the latest Motu

This seems to be a well known problem. The german motu support recommends to

> The MOTU 828 mk2 has been totally reliable for me in all circumstances

Yes, I can affirm that also the old 828 (MK1) doesn't have this problem,

neither with older Macs / old OSX versions nor with MacIntels and the latest

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Es war der 27.10.2006 0:18 Uhr, als Zip Boterbloem nicht widerstehen konnte,
folgende Gedanken dem Netz anzuvertrauen:

> I've used Travelers in a museum installation with bad results. The
> units(3) would loose their settings (mike preamp gain etc) every once
> in a while, and worse, would suddenly produce high pitched noise that
> on one occasion burned the tweeters of a speaker pair. The high
> pitched noise trouble is easily fixed by manually resetting the unit,
> but this is not an option in an installation.

I have the same experiences with the traveler. The high pitched noise
happens sometimes, at least with my Intel MacBook and the latest Motu
drivers. 
This seems to be a well known problem. The german motu support recommends to
flip the optical I/Os on and off ...

> The MOTU 828 mk2 has been totally reliable for me in all circumstances
> (heavy touring, installations).

Yes, I can affirm that also the old 828 (MK1) doesn't have this problem,
neither with older Macs / old OSX versions nor with MacIntels and the latest
system.

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> Has anyone got any experience with using a MOTU Traveler or Ultra Lite for

> very long periods in a row (several days).

> This is for an art installation (using Max) and I need to make sure that the

> MOTU traveler is stable for long periods of use. This would be under Mac OSX

> Would anyone recommend another firewire-based soundcard which is good for

> sound installations ? (with a least 8 output channels).

The MOTU or RME ones are great
Maybe something from Apogee also ?

>
> Hello,
>
> Has anyone got any experience with using a MOTU Traveler or Ultra Lite  for
> very long periods in a row (several days).
>
> This is for an art installation (using Max) and I need to make sure that the
> MOTU traveler is stable for long periods of use. This would be under Mac OSX
> tiger.
>
> Would anyone recommend another firewire-based soundcard which is good for
> sound installations ? (with a least 8 output channels).
>
> Thank you.
>
> GP
>
>

I made a wrong choice last time a bought a computer and need some advice or

* best management of professional Firewire audio/MIDI interfaces

* silent machine (will be used for recording)

* most difficult task: running a polyphonic software sampler in Max/MSP during a

live concert, at very low latency (48, 64 or 128 samples).

This machine will be used for audio only, and I need *stability* rather than

huge CPU power. To put it differently, I don't want the sound to drop at low

latency when the total CPU remains below 70%.

The sound card will be a RME Fireface 400.

Is there a real advantage to get an Apple computer for low-latency audio with

Max/MSP, like the black Macbook or the Mac Mini ? I have Windows and Linux on a

desktop PC so I am not asking for a sterile XP / OS X debate (I think both are

very good, depending on what you are making).

For the PC side, I was thinking of the Samsung or Asus laptops.

I made a wrong choice last time a bought a computer and need some advice or
experience.

Requirements:
* best management of professional Firewire audio/MIDI interfaces
* silent machine (will be used for recording)
* laptop or very small desktop
* < 1500 euros
* most difficult task: running a polyphonic software sampler in Max/MSP during a
live concert, at very low latency (48, 64 or 128 samples).

This machine will be used for audio only, and I need *stability* rather than
huge CPU power. To put it differently, I don't want the sound to drop at low
latency when the total CPU remains below 70%.

Is there a real advantage to get an Apple computer for low-latency audio with
Max/MSP, like the black Macbook or the Mac Mini ? I have Windows and Linux on a
desktop PC so I am not asking for a sterile XP / OS X debate (I think both are
very good, depending on what you are making).
For the PC side, I was thinking of the Samsung or Asus laptops.

Please share your experience
Thanks for your information
Julien


Subject: Re: [maxmsp] Stability of MOTU traveler in the long run ?

>> Has anyone got any experience with using a MOTU Traveler or Ultra Lite 

>> very long periods in a row (several days).

>> This is for an art installation (using Max) and I need to make sure that 

>> MOTU traveler is stable for long periods of use. This would be under Mac 

>> Would anyone recommend another firewire-based soundcard which is good for

>> sound installations ? (with a least 8 output channels).

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "julien breval" 
To: ; "Gui Pot" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [maxmsp] Stability of MOTU traveler in the long run ?

> The MOTU or RME ones are great
> Maybe something from Apogee also ?
>
> Selon Gui Pot :
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Has anyone got any experience with using a MOTU Traveler or Ultra Lite 
>> for
>> very long periods in a row (several days).
>>
>> This is for an art installation (using Max) and I need to make sure that 
>> the
>> MOTU traveler is stable for long periods of use. This would be under Mac 
>> OSX
>> tiger.
>>
>> Would anyone recommend another firewire-based soundcard which is good for
>> sound installations ? (with a least 8 output channels).
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> GP
>>
>>
>
>
