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solved – Use Max as note input for Sibelius

Sep 06 2013 | 4:01 am


I have been trying to use Max as note input for Sibelius, instead of an external MIDI keyboard. So far it does not work.

An external MIDI keyboard works
When I connect a MIDI keyboard to my computer, I open up Sibelius’ Input Devices preferences. I click "Find New Input Devices", and I make sure the device is checked in the "Use" column. Then I select a place in my Sibelius score to insert notes, and start playing on the MIDI. All the notes appear as quarter notes (or the note-length I selected). This is all good.

"from Max 1" doesn’t work
What I want to do, is try the same thing with Max as note generator, instead of me playing keys. I try the same procedure: start up Max, click "Find New Input Devices" in Sibelius, and make sure "from Max 1" is checked in the "Use" column. I can send MIDI notes from Max, but Sibelius doesn’t write them down in my score. Why? What am I doing wrong? The notes do appear in the "Keyboard" panel of Sibelius, so it is receiving them. (Note-ons and note-offs.) If I click notes in the "Keyboard" panel, Sibelius does write down the notes. If I play my external MIDI keyboard, Sibelius also writes down the notes.

Somehow Sibelius seems to notice a difference between MIDI input from a keyboard or from Max.

I am curious about what you think might be the exact problem or a good solution here.



Sep 06 2013 | 5:10 am

Maybe you aren’t sending the notes from Max on the proper MIDI channel?

Sep 06 2013 | 5:20 am

I have tried MIDI channels 0-16 in the noteout object. They all do the same thing.

Sep 06 2013 | 8:38 am

It seems rather unlikely, but perhaps Sibelius requires note messages with release velocity.
In this case you would have to use [xnoteout] in Max.

Sep 06 2013 | 8:51 am

Thanks for the replies! I tried the [xnoteout] now, but Sibelius responds in the same way.

Sep 08 2013 | 12:25 pm

Is there anybody that can point me in a good MIDI direction?

I have now solved the problem by using Max/MSP on another computer. I send the MIDI from Max on that computer via Wi-Fi to this computer. Now it does work ..

Now that I typed this, I thought: "There can’t be a problem here." So I restarted Max (always the right thing to do if nothing is wrong) and now it works :-)

Thanks for thinking with me Broc.

Sep 08 2013 | 1:17 pm

This is also a good way to fix Sibelius’ MIDI input so you can play the keyboard without entering a bunch of notes. (Via gate)

I’m not sure if there’s another way around that in Sibelius, but I’ve always found it obnoxious when I’ve used it.

Sep 08 2013 | 3:47 pm

There is a way around that in Sibelius.

Sibelius notates the notes that it receives in two cases:

1) "Input Notes" is turned on, and you see the note input caret.
2) You have selected a note in the score.

So you can always press escape a couple of times if you want to play the keyboard without entering a bunch of notes.

Sep 09 2013 | 10:15 pm


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