Brian H.

I must be *totally* missing something right in front of my face, because I can't find them! Where is the "Navigate Zoom" command? The docs refer to the zoom icon in the patcher toolbar-- The image in the doc window is broken, and I can't find any such icon on my toolbars. Not sure I totally understand it, but tried to get Max 7 to do something with the 'z' key, as highlighted in the Details section on the website, but it did nothing. Confused!

I must be *totally* missing something right in front of my face, because I can't find them!  Where is the "Navigate Zoom" command?  The docs refer to the zoom icon in the patcher toolbar-- The image in the doc window is broken, and I can't find any such icon on my toolbars.  Not sure I totally understand it, but tried to get Max 7 to do something with the 'z' key, as highlighted in the Details section on the website, but it did nothing.  Confused!

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It seems that parts of 5 or 6 documentation has slipped into 7. 

https://cycling74.com/docs/max5/vignettes/core/patcher_window_navigation.html

Probably the navigate zoom has been ditched.

The z-key works fine, but in unlocked patchers.

It seems that parts of 5 or 6 documentation has slipped into 7. https://cycling74.com/docs/max5/vignettes/core/patcher_window_navigation.html
Probably the navigate zoom has been ditched.

The z-key works fine, but in unlocked patchers.


I was just looking for this very topic. Its amazing to me that in 4 YEARS no one has managed to fix this silly bug! HOW many people have been mis-lead by this erroneous documentation?

I was just looking for this very topic.  Its amazing to me that in 4 YEARS no one has managed to fix this silly bug!   HOW many people have been mis-lead by this erroneous documentation?    

You’ve confirmed it’s still uncorrected?

es!  I am under the impression that with MAX 7, "Zoom  icon" was entirely removed. I get that..  They do now have the Zoom drop down list of zoom values.. and the "z" zoom key.. but there is no "Zoom icon" that I can find.   What's ironic to me though is that BOTH online and offline documentation for Max 7,  Still has a section that refers to a "Zoom Icon",  which was suppose to allow a user to "move the pallet"  .. so that one does not have to resort to using scroll bars. 

Apparently at one time there were actually images of the MAX toolbar showing this non-existent Icon.  Notice the broken lmage link symbols.   Here is the URL:  https://docs.cycling74.com/max7/vignettes/patcher_window_navigation

Click on the Zoom icon in the Patcher toolbar. The Zoom icon will be highlighted, 

and the navigate zoom window will appear in the lower right-hand corner of the patcher window

 around on your desktop, and click and drag in the lower right-hand corner of the Navigation window to change its size.

The navigate zoom window has a pale blue viewing frame that shows you a simplified version of what you're looking at in the patcher window inside the viewing frame.

There are times when I REALLY wish something like this capability still existed.  I hate mousing with a scrollbar  It's so awkward and frankly un-necessary!!!   I don't want to take my eyes off of what I'm looking at to search around for the Damn scrollbar.     What I WANT  is either a "navigation" hand or at least a Key I can hold down so I can drag the the pallet view around without having to Zoom out and zoom in again! On a MAC there IS at least a natural scrolling that occurs when you extend the mouse outside of the MAX patch window.  But this does not happen on my Windows 10 PC.  .. On the MAC you can also Shift-scroll wheel which scrolls horizontally .   This also is not available on Windows 10 for some reason. 

So then one gets frustrated thinking "C'mon!"  There has GOT to be a hidden trick to make it so I can drag my patch around while its still zoomed in!"   So I go looking for answers and find the above Help page section.  If I could find that "navigate zoom window" I'd be happy.. but I've never been able to locate it!  

It seems odd that someone would not at least have have Fixed this erroneous help section in MAX help.

es!  I am under the impression that with MAX 7, "Zoom  icon" was entirely removed. I get that..  They do now have the Zoom drop down list of zoom values.. and the "z" zoom key..  but there is no "Zoom icon" that I can find.   What's ironic to me though is that BOTH online and offline documentation for Max 7,  Still has a section that refers to a "Zoom Icon",  which was suppose to allow a user to "move the pallet"  .. so that one does not have to resort to using scroll bars. 
Apparently at one time there were actually images of the MAX toolbar showing this non-existent Icon.  Notice the broken lmage link symbols.   Here is the URL:  https://docs.cycling74.com/max7/vignettes/patcher_window_navigation
I'll quote it here:  


Click on the Zoom icon in the Patcher toolbar. The Zoom icon will be highlighted, and the navigate zoom window will appear in the lower right-hand corner of the patcher window.

You can move the navigate zoom window around on your desktop, and click and drag in the lower right-hand corner of the Navigation window to change its size.

"

There are times when I REALLY wish something like this capability still existed.  I hate mousing with a scrollbar  It's so awkward and frankly un-necessary!!!   I don't want to take my eyes off of what I'm looking at to search around for the Damn scrollbar.     What I WANT  is either a "navigation" hand or at least a Key I can hold down so I can drag the the pallet view around without having to Zoom out and zoom in again! On a MAC there IS at least a natural scrolling that occurs when you extend the mouse outside of the MAX patch window.  But this does not happen on my Windows 10 PC.  .. On the MAC you can also Shift-scroll wheel which scrolls horizontally .   This also is not available on Windows 10 for some reason. 
So then one gets frustrated thinking "C'mon!"  There has GOT to be a hidden trick to make it so I can drag my patch around while its still zoomed in!"   So I go looking for answers and find the above Help page section.  If I could find that "navigate zoom window" I'd be happy.. but I've never been able to locate it!   
It seems odd that someone would not at least have have Fixed this erroneous help section in MAX help. 

Zoom features?