truepiano vs pianoteq

    Oct 19 2012 | 11:56 am
    who compared the truepiano and pianoteq, that realistic? Which is still good vst instruments using phisical modelling? Thank you.

    • Oct 19 2012 | 3:24 pm
      I have compared them. Pianoteq is far superior when it comes to dynamics and responsiveness. Not only does it sound real it feels real. Being a pianist myself, that makes all the difference. If you are a producer and you just wants something that sounds good than, truepiano should suffice.
    • Oct 20 2012 | 2:00 pm
      I have not used TruePiano but I use Pianoteq all the time and it is very good indeed.
    • Oct 20 2012 | 5:13 pm
      I have both. As Anthony said, Pianoteq is particularly good if you are a pianist. Truepiano is really good for a solid piano sound with a little less CPU overhead. One of my favorite things about Pianoteq, though, is since it's a physical modeling instrument, you can do some pretty cool things with it. It will read Scala tuning files and I recently used it to compose a piece for microtonal piano that worked amazingly well. If you try to do that with most instruments, it just detunes the samples with all the artifacts entailed. However Pianoteq retunes the "strings" so you continue to get a realistic piano sound but with different tunings.
    • Oct 20 2012 | 11:19 pm
      The ability to retune the Pianoteq and to fine-tune the instrument is definitely worth the extra CPU cycles, and that's an understatement.
    • Mar 12 2017 | 12:23 am
      Hi Gregory, please can you help me or navigate me how to retune Pianoteq. Can I send a frequency information from Max to Pianoteq and assigne it to note, or I have to retune it in Max by retune~ or zerox~ or some kind of pitch process on incomming signal from Pianoteq? And is it possible with Pianoteq demo? I'm sorry for this general questions, I'm very new to Max. Thank you very much.
    • Mar 12 2017 | 12:23 am
      And I mean, completly custom tuning, not diapason only. For example A4=300hz, B4=301hz, C5=302hz ...
    • Mar 12 2017 | 12:47 am
      Peter, the Pianoteq uses standard Scala file format. Perhaps hitting the Scala website will help....
    • Mar 12 2017 | 9:42 am
      exactly, i wouldnt bother doing the scale in max, scala seems more interesting. (of course you can still copy and paste data from max to scala if necessary...)
    • Mar 12 2017 | 10:22 am
      Obviously, you can certainly create an abstraction with a built-in bit of code or lookup table and then use it to replace the mtof object if you're working exclusively inside of MSP, as well....
    • Mar 12 2017 | 8:27 pm
      or you use mtof and run scales in floating point note numbers like i do. but how to get pianoteq inside msp? :P
    • Mar 13 2017 | 12:22 pm
      Thanks guys, yes I tryed Scala before this post, but i did't find where to import scala file. But I take a look on Pianoteq page again, I had Stage, not Standard version. There's not available to do that. Primary problem solved. I'm exclusively working in Max, controling Pianoteq with sequncer along live piano playing, after that mixing it with synchronized sampler in Max, and all maped on one piano. It would be nice make a retune under one roof. Max Gardener, thank you, I will try your recommendations. Already I don't understand how to send retuned scale to Pianoteq, if I must generate someting like scala file from Max, or I can do that directly to Pianoteq VST inside patch? Maybe I will have more specific questions, if I can.
    • Mar 13 2017 | 2:13 pm
      The documentation tells you where to put the files - it's stupid simple, really.
      You grab or create a Scala-format file [I don't know how exotic a version of a Scala file you'd be using. Mine is a sequence of ratios] and chuck it in the specificed folder.
      If you're using a scale that calculates its output from, say, a specified key as the pitch from which the other pitches are calculated, then you add a keyboard map (.kbm) file.
      Once that's done, they show up in your Pianoteq menus as selectable scales and keyboard mappings. That's it.
    • Mar 13 2017 | 2:47 pm
      I understand, this all I had done yesterday, I only needed reinstall other version pianoteq. I am asking, if that all is possible without, exporting/importing .scl and .kbm files? If it's possible send - sequence of ratio- from max direcly to pianoteq Scale or Keymap parameter?
    • Mar 13 2017 | 4:56 pm
      To my knowledge, no.
    • Mar 13 2017 | 5:10 pm
      Ok, thank you, in all it was helpfull. Already I'll study how works lookup table and abstractions.