Twistedtools s-layer inspired max/msp patch help


    Aug 03 2013 | 6:09 pm
    Hi. Here's a great Reaktor built sound design tool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTa6ODTNGdQ I'd love to repoduce it within max/msp. What object, in your opinion, would best suit the sample handling (easy browsing and loading) and manipulation (especially stretching and granulation) side of the device? Thanks. J.

    • Aug 04 2013 | 9:42 am
      Hi and are you serious ? What object ? There is tones of academic work done on their tools . If you really want to take this road ,then perhaps you should "understand" their construction first and realize that there might be hundreds of objects to consider and special data flow to implement . But you need to understand what is going on FIRST , before any questions like this .
      Sorry if im sounding rude , im just not that optimistic like you to get an answer .
      As a first step of research ,i recommend to study granural synthesis first on your own ,as you will not get that information too easily from their constructions . I can tell you that this sort of synthesis is crucial in their tools . and they compute several data in realtime to drive their granular "windowing" on several voices to get that well sounding time stretch/pitch shifting . thats the first thing you can start to look for . look at gizmo object ,but in my opinion you should go deeper to get the knowledge of how "granulars" works ,as this is really fantastic part of the DSP stuff and math.
      go for it
    • Aug 04 2013 | 9:44 am
      and im sorry if i was too rude . i wish you all the best , i just dont want you to think that is an easy road . have fun but take time
    • Nov 09 2013 | 12:42 am
      I built one of these, it was not difficult at all.. what really makes S-Layer is the samples included with the device..
    • Nov 09 2013 | 1:17 pm
      Hi Wonderchild ! It would be very kind to share this !
    • Nov 09 2013 | 7:13 pm
      Tom Cosm did a similar device for m4l. Doesnt have granular but it's quite well made.
    • Nov 09 2013 | 7:56 pm
      Thanks Newtfish, but the point with S-Layer, IMHO, is the granular shit !
    • Nov 09 2013 | 9:51 pm
      Hi, my patch is pretty messy, I can try and tidy it up a little and bring it to the post.
    • Nov 09 2013 | 10:30 pm
      Nice. Tom's is just a midi filter, really. A good tweakable player would be aces.
    • Nov 10 2013 | 5:15 pm
      Yes, that would be cool Wonderchild. Depending on how messy it is, I wouldn't mind helping you to clean it.
    • Nov 22 2013 | 11:58 am
      Bump.
    • Jun 11 2014 | 10:02 pm
    • Jun 12 2014 | 7:29 am
      To answer your original question - polybuffer~ to handle the samples, then either play~ or wave~ for playback if you don't want it to be granular. Search the forums for granular if you do (quite a bit more complex, but achievable).