URGENT ....
I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A 12 CHANEL PLAYER WITH MIDI FILE SYNC
AS I CHANGED A FILE PATH IN THE FILE PREF MENU... THINGS WENT PEAR SHAPED ...
I RESTARTED ... MAX TAKE 30 MIN TO RESTART AND THEN GET STUCK ..
I OLSO DELETED ALL FILE RELATED AND REINSTALL ... /// STILL LOOKING FOR SOMETHING AND TAKES 20MIN TO START AND THEN GET STUCK ...
I THINK IT A FILES PREF PROBLEM BUT I CAN'T FIND THE PREF FILE IN THE SYSTEM TO GET I8T GOING
ANY IDEA...
REALLY URGENT ... MASSIVE PROJECT DEADLINE ....
THANKS ... CHICKEN
what
the preferences are in a text file called "maxsearchpaths". Find the file, and you can edit it.
cheers dude ...
i'm, just starting ... to use the fllepping beast l..
chicken
new rule: do not answer posts from users with
-110
you're a star ,... othanks ... that worked ...
silly me ....
must have been a bit tiered ... it was 4am ..
take care
chicken
> new rule: do not answer posts from users with
seriously, do you have nothing better to do than prowl these lists looking for opportunities to be an elitist prick?
who's making you reply to anything? just don't fucking bother, because i'm sure the majority of your posts are a waste of fucking time anyway. like posting a link for a google search for me the other day. what is that all about? aside from the inferiority complex shit that you obviously need to quell, i can't really see the point
I agree, there was a time where even you had < 50 posts.
I am gald no one treated you that way and discouraged you
from continuing to learn Max.
i'm guessing it was a (bad) joke?
anyways... number of posts only tells if someone has nothing better to do...
to give myself a mental massage i must say that I was an excelent maxer before i even looked at the forum the first time ;)
yet
I DON'T LIKE WHEN PEOPLE SCREAM, it makes me really nervous
hey guys ...
well i got that problem sorted . i don't quiete understand why all this stuff about reply , number of topics etc.....
so can we stop it there now ....
thanks .
chicken
it's because when you type in uppercase, you're shouting. besides, calling your stuff urgent doesn't come across on a mailing list, it seems pushy.
just that you know, i'm sure it's not personal, it's a bit of mail list habit and this list is a bit sensitive on that. nice and helpfull bunch otherwise though, you should check the soundonsound list ; )
You're worse. Roman is always VERY funny and you're the pricks.
f.e
f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|
well i was in total panic. hence the urgent and the shoutting.
but i get your point.
and thanks again to dayton for the advice.
all take care and happy maxing ...
do check our website for info on the project.
www.whiteplane2.org
chicken
wow, it looks amazingly beautiful ! did you plan to go in Paris with ?
f.e
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> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|
On 8-Jun-2006, at 10:00, f.e wrote:
> Roman is always VERY funny
Nah. At best moderately amusing. Occasionally.
Remember: heaven is having a British wit, a French cook, a German
engineer, and an Italian lover. Hell is when you rely on Germany for
your comedy (although, yes, if you know where to look, you can find
perfectly decent cooking in England, humor in Germany, engineering in
Italy, and a red hot lover anywhere except Pennsylvania).
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well you've clearly been seeing him for lessons on wit. good comeback!
Come on people, can we let it rest. I think
Chicken already summed it up.
"so can we stop it there now ...."
Anthony
!!! hahahahahahahahahahaha !!! best laugh on forum yet,- thnx
and from a german too, what do you know
Oh, I don't know - anyone who continues to work in OS9
and _enjoy it_, must have a pretty well developed
sense of humour ;-)
cheers
Roger
Nope, hell is when you have a British cook, a German wit, an Italian engineer, and any lover...
Joe
who's bitter
Peter is referencing a great Eurocentric joke
that I know a slightly different variation of
(and, since it spreads a wider career net and
includes another country, spreads the love
even further):
In Heaven, the Police are British,
the Mechanics are German, the Chefs
are French, the Lovers are Italian,
and organization is provided by the
Swiss.
In Hell, the Police are German,
the Mechanics are French, the Chefs
are British, the Lovers are Swiss,
and organization provided by
the Italians.
There's also an American variation
in which certain American regional
traits replace the nation states. I
suspect this joke became necessary
because some American was sufficiently
incensed by Americans not getting any
of the plum jobs that he/she felt it
necessary to construct a version where
Heaven (and Hell, since the joke
requires it) was run entirely by
Americans.
I'm not sure that that bit's funny.
clearly, in hell the comics are max/msp users.
And this is the equivalent for Canada...
Canada could have had:
British government,French culture, and American proficiency
but it got:
French government, American culture, and British proficiency
Osborne Frit wrote:
>
>> new rule: do not answer posts from users with
> ....
> i can't really see the point
It was a reminder to not reply to anybody who makes >110 jokes about new
users a month and can't resist to break his own rule in the same
moment... ;-)
Ignoring dumb jokes is a requirement for Max, it should go into the docs.
I believe there is a social aspect about this:
In any community who's context is mastering a certain skill there are
jokes about the novices... Its part of a natural selection process, if
you really want to be part of that community, you'll happily laugh about
them until you start to make your own jokes...
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> I believe there is a social aspect about this:
> In any community who's context is mastering a certain skill there are
> jokes about the novices... Its part of a natural selection process, if
> you really want to be part of that community, you'll happily laugh
> about them until you start to make your own jokes...
Thinking about it, I must admit that I have mostly seen this in strongly
male dominated communities, most often linked to a strong hostility
against women entering the domain.
Best,
Trond
On 9-Jun-2006, at 15:01, Trond Lossius wrote:
> Thinking about it, I must admit that I have mostly seen this in
> strongly male dominated communities, most often linked to a strong
> hostility against women entering the domain.
Interesting point. Reminds me of a number of observations made in
feminist studies about man/woman relations and differences between
behaviours in different gender-dominated groups.
You're probably right, Trond, but making the observation is most
likely, in the first instance, to generate more essentially hostile
responses from the wannabe alpha-males.
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hi, there...all ...
well, actually being a community is about accepting others.
other wise you get inbreeding and we all know thst is bad ...
olso i havn't been ignoring the jokes, well a bit ....
but i really didn't have the time.
thanks for the support.
also what is the point of a forum if you have to post 50 to get a reply ?????
chicken
www.whiteplane2.org
I'm confused, why would anyone be defending this post? All caps and irrational as well as hard to understand? And yet we find people defending the right for beginners to post this sort of nonsense. I am completely shocked, yet again :/ Chicken, you need to learn how to ask questions. Acting like a whiny victim of circumstance and demanding people help you is no way to get what you want.
To everyone that defended this post, please try to not be so harsh on the people that just want a legible, easy to comprehend, well thought out question. Just the fact that such a post could cause a flame war based on its nature is a good example thats its not formatted in a way conductive to productivity.
You know I took another look at Chikens post, I do not think
he sounded like a whiny victim. What part was demanding?
Was it "REALLY URGENT ... MASSIVE PROJECT DEADLINE .... ",
perhaps it is the caps that makes things sound demanding.
All this caps stuff is nonsense to me.
Granted his english is not the best but you should keep in mind
that the Max community is global and that there are those out
there whose English is not as good as yours. Should he
take more English classes then? Man, you have some nerve.
Up to this point I think everyone was taking it with a grain of
salt, even Chicken. But your post just exemplifies how this
insensitive attitude creates a unfriendly environment for new
users.
yes, all this whining about newbees is more annoying than the n00bs questions by far. I don't think a discussion forum is anything to take serious at all, it's just a bunch of people with the same interrest sharing experience. I don't believe anyone really minds answering a question whichs seems to easy for them ???? if so, why waste time being sazzy, instead of just not answering ?
If someone slaps a bad joke in my face i woulden't care the least.... someone will answer the question proper sooner or later anyway. ;)
'why can't we be frinds, why can't wee bee friends'
peace, love, boom, shakti, sheeva and all that shit
whats even more annoying is getting the rest of these comments.. can
we move on please?
v a d e //
www.vade.info
abstrakt.vade.info
hooo i didn't tell you what the problem was in the end ...
by accident off course, it was 3 am when i was working on that stuff... i draged a alias of the hard drive in a folder caontained in max's path ... hence it taking nearly 20min to start up...
noyt a good idea ...
let's move on ...
take care all.
chicken ..
www.whiteplane2.org
thanks f.e
well we would love to come to paris ...
we just need a place and the money if have good cantact in the arts and stuff let me know. or any one you think we should invite ...
by the way you are all invited , and we will be having a bit of a party in glasgow .. so let us know ..
again, pass by the web site
www.whitplane2.org
charles poulet wrote:
> also what is the point of a forum if you have to post 50 to get a reply ?????
You got already half that many replies to your first question... ;-)
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Trond Lossius wrote:
> Thinking about it, I must admit that I have mostly seen this in strongly
> male dominated communities, most often linked to a strong hostility
> against women entering the domain.
You could tell from the kind of jokes, I am sure in female dominated
communities there are a lot of jokes whith a strong hostility against
men entering the domain as well. In mixed communities you might find a
difference regarding the opposite gender...
I consider the Max community a mixed one, I'd like to see more women
participate...
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Would it count if I wore a dress and makeup while I patched? *cough*
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> Granted his english is not the best but you should keep in mind
> that the Max community is global and that there are those out
> there whose English is not as good as yours.
I for one can not wait until everything is paved and Americanized. It sure is taking a long time :/
Would you like fries with that? Oh wait...
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> I for one can not wait until everything is paved and Americanized. It sure is taking a long time :/
that's AmericaniSed! god dammit
Quote: Osborne Frit wrote on Wed, 14 June 2006 21:38
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>
> > I for one can not wait until everything is paved and Americanized. It sure is taking a long time :/
>
> that's AmericaniSed! god dammit
>
>
>
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flew right over my head :/ (as most things do)... care to explain yourself professor Osbourne? What school of humor are you refering to?
Ah, differences....
words of wisdow Llyod, words of fucking wisdom.
you say tomayto, i say tomato, etc
americanized, americanised
On 15-Jun-2006, at 6:38, Osborne Frit wrote:
> that's AmericaniSed! god dammit
Not in America.
For that matter, not even in OED.
The problem is that Brits can't spell their own language.
'Most English printers, taking their cue from Kent in King Lear,
"Thou whoreson zed, Thou unnecessary letter!" follow the French
practice of changing -ize to -ise. But the Oxford Unitversity
Press, the Cambridge University Press, The Times and American
usage ... carry authority enough to outweight superior numbers.
...
It must be noted, however, that a small number of verbs, some of
them in very frequent use like advertise, devise and surprise,
do not get their -ise even remotely from the Greek -izo, and must
be spelt with -s-. The difficulty of remembering which these -ise
verbs are is in fact the only reason for making -ise universal,
and the sacrifice of significance to ease does not seem
justified.'
-- H.W. Fowler, _A Dictionary of Modern English Usage_, 2nd ed.
Before you start raising deprecations to the Almighty... get thee to
a dictionary: why wouldst thou be a breeder of dyslexics? ... Go thy
ways to a dictionary. Where's your spelling teacher?
BTW, this has also been discussed on the list before.
-- P .-) regarding Bill S.
:-| regarding Hank F., even if he can't count.
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um, it was a joke
> It must be noted, however, that a small number of verbs, some of
> them in very frequent use like advertise, devise and surprise,
> do not get their -ise even remotely from the Greek -izo, and must
> be spelt with -s-. The difficulty of remembering which these -ise
> verbs are is in fact the only reason for making -ise universal,
> and the sacrifice of significance to ease does not seem
> justified.'
> -- H.W. Fowler, _A Dictionary of Modern English Usage_, 2nd ed.
>
Hey, this is actually quite useful information for non-english people, like me. Thanks!
On 15-Jun-2006, at 11:01, Osborne Frit wrote:
> um, it was a joke
Sorry, missed the smiley. I'll look again. When I have time.
%-}
[Please cf the .sig from my previous post on this thread if you need it]
Well for starters nothing in this thread is URGENT. An example of overly
emotional usage. Like when I hear a student say they were "devastated" by
the grade they received when it was a B.
But most of the time language gaffs are just funny. For example a local
company called "Dun Rite Construction."
A few years ago on the same newscast the president of American Airlines was
speaking about an impending strike. He said that "this is the worst time
for a strike given the airline's already poor economic outlook. We're not
sure we can keep this airline afloat." And Ohio senator Howard Metzenbaum
outside the senate chambers after passage of the Brady gun control law.
"Going in we didn't think we had the votes but we had to take a short at
it." Or one of my colleagues bringing up a touchy issue at a faculty
meeting: "Now, I don't want to open a barrel of monkeys ..." so I guess a
good party could be "more fun than a can of worms."
In the American culture export category is the t-shirt I saw in Taiwan. It
had Babe Ruth playing for the Mets.
Dictionary sure but how about an encyclopedia?
Bringing this back to Max, check out MaxLisp. One of the examples generates
George Bush speeches.
Cheers,
Gary Lee Nelson
TIMARA Department
Oberlin College
www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
As an interesting side note, there are multiple groups advocating a
complete revision of spelling, most notably the simplified spelling
society.
Though we tend to think of spelling as something quite fixed, according
to some research, it's deceptively malleable, with most people able to
get used to reading new spellings within (IIRC) 5-6 hours. Writing
took a little longer, but the standardization of rules greatly aided
the process. I actually think that the different spellings are
interesting, as they clue you into people's origins. Perhaps we should
have more spelling dialects?
Peter McCulloch
this thread was started to support this project.
that's all i have to say.
thanks Darek Rossman for answerring my question and to f.e for the interest in the project.
thanks.
chicken
On 15-Jun-2006, at 17:48, Peter McCulloch wrote:
> Though we tend to think of spelling as something quite fixed,
> according to some research, it's deceptively malleable, with most
> people able to get used to reading new spellings within (IIRC) 5-6
> hours.
As anyone who has followed the debate on _Rechtschreibreform_ in
German-speaking Central Europe can verify, 5-6 *years* seems too
short a time for people to get used to new spellings. Decades is
perhaps the more appropriate time unit.
As I recall, Denmark (and perhaps some other countries) instituted
spelling reforms within living memory. Anyone got stories to tell?
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Sorry, forgot to disagree with Peter:
"But the Oxford Unitversity
Press, the Cambridge University Press, The Times and American
usage ... carry authority enough to outweight superior numbers."
I couldn't disagree more, and I believe the chaps at the OED would back me up. The OED is continuously updated to reflect commen usage. The evolution of a language must be a bottom up process. The linguistic equivalent of communism's central command economy shares the same inherent weaknesses. Too slow, too few decision makers, arbitrariness etc.
Sigh. I think I've become boring and I'm not even forty two yet.
Quote: Osborne Frit wrote on Thu, 15 June 2006 01:38
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> you say tomayto, i say tomato, etc
>
> americanized, americanised
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I'm fairly certain I don't say tomayto!! ;((((
Where are you getting your information?? Speak up else I'll have your liver (and possibly your kidneys)....
oh, and whats this whole "etc" business... how long does the list go on? do you have it available in portable document format?
binez0r
> Sigh. I think I've become boring and I'm not even forty two yet.
NEWSFLASH : This just in ...... =P
Quote: Peter Castine wrote on Fri, 16 June 2006 02:44
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> On 15-Jun-2006, at 17:48, Peter McCulloch wrote:
> As I recall, Denmark (and perhaps some other countries) instituted
> spelling reforms within living memory. Anyone got stories to tell?
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i'm not danish, but in dutch we have one every few years.
it's not really hard, but one thing's for sure: it never gets simpler. it's always a matter of getting used too.
now some netherlands newspapers have started their own spelling. it's a pity, because it may destroy the union of language between the netherlands and flanders.
what's so difficult about spelling anyway? an occasional error isn't such a disaster.
though it is strange how bad people from the UK spell their language, some english friends of mine told me their educational system is pretty bad.
i for one really like english spelling, the grammar's already dead easy and it gives it such a nice charm.
anyway, peter, do you always write nouns in uppercase and is it true germans often don't use declination anymore?
bye
junior | isjtar
On 17-Jun-2006, at 7:37, junior wrote:
> anyway, peter, do you always write nouns in uppercase and is it
> true germans often don't use declination anymore?
It's not my native language, but when I write in German nouns are
capitalized, as has been standard usage since long before the
spelling reform of 1901.
I've not noticed a decline in declination in standard German. Aside
from the question about whether 'wegen' (because) takes genitive or
dative, Germans are pretty uniform in their usage. However, many
regional dialects are sloppy about both case and gender.
There's a cute book called _Der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod_ which
has raised awareness on grammatical issues in German-speaking Central
Europe much the way Lynne Truss made punctuation a popular sport in
anglophone areas.
Thanks for the comments on Dutch spelling.
-- Peter
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Peter Castine wrote:
> As anyone who has followed the debate on _Rechtschreibreform_ in
> German-speaking Central Europe can verify, 5-6 *years* seems too short
> a time for people to get used to new spellings. Decades is perhaps the
> more appropriate time unit.
If you force any kind of spelling, by defining some correct and some
faulty, nobody will get ever used to it, its too much stress and no fun.
My son is happily misspelling in internet chat rooms which seems to
create completely new ways of communication. No problem for him, but
probably intentionally a problem for the parents.
To get ontopic again my new object called missspell... feed it with
correctly spelled symbols....
Oh boy, this was urgent...
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Peter McCulloch wrote:
> Though we tend to think of spelling as something quite fixed, according
> to some research, it's deceptively malleable, with most people able to
> get used to reading new spellings within (IIRC) 5-6 hours.
aah nato.0+55 - m!ndvak na+azHa'z bag....
I never got used to her spelling art, and I am sure I spent more than
5-6 hours on reading her posts... ;-)
Stefan
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inaktual info...
in china they are changing ideograms in to some symplified one?, then
other asian culture they took ideogram from china long time ago
while keep that comon culture beetwin asian
(Korea, Japan...?)but Chineses will lost...But Japanese are not more
progress...by reduction of expression to mmmm.....soooooooo New
generation lost grammare and vocabulary....can't make a phrasis...
can imagine some phonetik pinjin-lingo take more large place in the
world than esperanto or real anglosaxon stylized accentued
recognising sign beetween social class?
i don't now...on that postModern tabula rasa..
.Darwin will save you(!:~i)=
i assume that this fad for ditching capital letters started outside germany, but it has caught on here to the extent that when putting together text for album covers and websites et al, one of the first considerations is, do we use only lower case or mixed letters ?
i imagine chicken's latest album WENT FOR A THIRD OPTION :-)
i've already done a deal whereby i get my compatriots back home to drive on the right like everybody else (nearly) in return for the germans dropping h and calling it b like everybody else. maybe they could throw in lower case nouns as a sign of good faith ?
> On 8-Jun-2006, at 10:00, f.e wrote:
> > Roman is always VERY funny
>
> Nah. At best moderately amusing. Occasionally.
rofl. and i was wondering why this thread made
it to 67 replies over the last week. it is about me!
-110
Quote: pascal.baes wrote on Sat, 17 June 2006 17:04
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> inaktual info...
> in china they are changing ideograms in to some symplified one?
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the simplifications were in common use as variants for centuries.
> can imagine some phonetik pinjin-lingo take more large place in the
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you mean pidgin? won't happen, english is cheap, everyone can have it.
noone will spell it correctly though : )
Yes Roman, look at what your little remark
started. It is all your fault. ;)
Anthony
Roman Thilenius wrote:
> rofl. and i was wondering why this thread made
> it to 67 replies over the last week. it is about me!
Its obviously on its way into the Guiness book of records...
Just don't forget to reply to it...
(It was still (till now) not labeled [OT] ;-)))))
But my missspell is dedicated to the "less than ten posts" memebers of
the list...
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Stuart Grimshaw wrote:
> i've already done a deal whereby i get my compatriots back home to
> drive on the right like everybody else (nearly) in return for the
> germans dropping h and calling it b like everybody else. maybe they
> could throw in lower case nouns as a sign of good faith ?
I urgently want it the other way round, the rest of the roman letter
world needs to give a sign of good faith (Urgently so to Speak)...
(I could help out with an abhaXion to automate the misspelling and keep
this urgent Thread further ontopic...)
Stefan
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