solved - Use Max as note input for Sibelius

boris's icon

Hello,

I have been trying to use Max as note input for Sibelius, instead of an external MIDI keyboard. So far it does not work.

An external MIDI keyboard works
When I connect a MIDI keyboard to my computer, I open up Sibelius' Input Devices preferences. I click "Find New Input Devices", and I make sure the device is checked in the "Use" column. Then I select a place in my Sibelius score to insert notes, and start playing on the MIDI. All the notes appear as quarter notes (or the note-length I selected). This is all good.

"from Max 1" doesn't work
What I want to do, is try the same thing with Max as note generator, instead of me playing keys. I try the same procedure: start up Max, click "Find New Input Devices" in Sibelius, and make sure "from Max 1" is checked in the "Use" column. I can send MIDI notes from Max, but Sibelius doesn't write them down in my score. Why? What am I doing wrong? The notes do appear in the "Keyboard" panel of Sibelius, so it is receiving them. (Note-ons and note-offs.) If I click notes in the "Keyboard" panel, Sibelius does write down the notes. If I play my external MIDI keyboard, Sibelius also writes down the notes.

Somehow Sibelius seems to notice a difference between MIDI input from a keyboard or from Max.

I am curious about what you think might be the exact problem or a good solution here.

Thanks,

Boris

broc's icon

Maybe you aren't sending the notes from Max on the proper MIDI channel?

boris's icon

I have tried MIDI channels 0-16 in the noteout object. They all do the same thing.

broc's icon

It seems rather unlikely, but perhaps Sibelius requires note messages with release velocity.
In this case you would have to use [xnoteout] in Max.

boris's icon

Thanks for the replies! I tried the [xnoteout] now, but Sibelius responds in the same way.

boris's icon

Is there anybody that can point me in a good MIDI direction?

I have now solved the problem by using Max/MSP on another computer. I send the MIDI from Max on that computer via Wi-Fi to this computer. Now it does work ..

Now that I typed this, I thought: "There can't be a problem here." So I restarted Max (always the right thing to do if nothing is wrong) and now it works :-)

Thanks for thinking with me Broc.

Peter McCulloch's icon

This is also a good way to fix Sibelius' MIDI input so you can play the keyboard without entering a bunch of notes. (Via gate)

I'm not sure if there's another way around that in Sibelius, but I've always found it obnoxious when I've used it.

boris's icon

There is a way around that in Sibelius.

Sibelius notates the notes that it receives in two cases:

1) "Input Notes" is turned on, and you see the note input caret.
2) You have selected a note in the score.

So you can always press escape a couple of times if you want to play the keyboard without entering a bunch of notes.

Peter McCulloch's icon
Charles Klippel Neimog's icon

Hi people, can you shared this patch with me?

Im very interested but I dont know how this work. Thank you!