solved - Use Max as note input for Sibelius


    Sep 06 2013 | 11:01 am
    Hello,
    I have been trying to use Max as note input for Sibelius, instead of an external MIDI keyboard. So far it does not work.
    An external MIDI keyboard works
    When I connect a MIDI keyboard to my computer, I open up Sibelius' Input Devices preferences. I click "Find New Input Devices", and I make sure the device is checked in the "Use" column. Then I select a place in my Sibelius score to insert notes, and start playing on the MIDI. All the notes appear as quarter notes (or the note-length I selected). This is all good.
    "from Max 1" doesn't work
    What I want to do, is try the same thing with Max as note generator, instead of me playing keys. I try the same procedure: start up Max, click "Find New Input Devices" in Sibelius, and make sure "from Max 1" is checked in the "Use" column. I can send MIDI notes from Max, but Sibelius doesn't write them down in my score. Why? What am I doing wrong? The notes do appear in the "Keyboard" panel of Sibelius, so it is receiving them. (Note-ons and note-offs.) If I click notes in the "Keyboard" panel, Sibelius does write down the notes. If I play my external MIDI keyboard, Sibelius also writes down the notes.
    Somehow Sibelius seems to notice a difference between MIDI input from a keyboard or from Max.
    I am curious about what you think might be the exact problem or a good solution here.
    Thanks,
    Boris

    • Sep 06 2013 | 12:10 pm
      Maybe you aren't sending the notes from Max on the proper MIDI channel?
    • Sep 06 2013 | 12:20 pm
      I have tried MIDI channels 0-16 in the noteout object. They all do the same thing.
    • Sep 06 2013 | 3:38 pm
      It seems rather unlikely, but perhaps Sibelius requires note messages with release velocity.
      In this case you would have to use [xnoteout] in Max.
    • Sep 06 2013 | 3:51 pm
      Thanks for the replies! I tried the [xnoteout] now, but Sibelius responds in the same way.
    • Sep 08 2013 | 7:25 pm
      Is there anybody that can point me in a good MIDI direction?
      I have now solved the problem by using Max/MSP on another computer. I send the MIDI from Max on that computer via Wi-Fi to this computer. Now it does work ..
      Now that I typed this, I thought: "There can't be a problem here." So I restarted Max (always the right thing to do if nothing is wrong) and now it works :-)
      Thanks for thinking with me Broc.
    • Sep 08 2013 | 8:17 pm
      This is also a good way to fix Sibelius' MIDI input so you can play the keyboard without entering a bunch of notes. (Via gate)
      I'm not sure if there's another way around that in Sibelius, but I've always found it obnoxious when I've used it.
    • Sep 08 2013 | 10:47 pm
      There is a way around that in Sibelius.
      Sibelius notates the notes that it receives in two cases:
      1) "Input Notes" is turned on, and you see the note input caret.
      2) You have selected a note in the score.
      So you can always press escape a couple of times if you want to play the keyboard without entering a bunch of notes.
    • Sep 10 2013 | 5:15 am
      Thanks!