I don't have Max with me at the moment to check this, but if you double-click the pattrstorage objects I think you get a list of all the objects connected by pattr. There are tick boxes which turn control on/off for each object connected. Will these solve your problems? If you had 8 objects connected, for instance, have 1-4 checked on pattrstorage1 then 5-8 checked on pattrstorage2.

For your UI question, have you looked into Bpatcher? I think it's just what you need, interface tutorial 1 covers it pretty well. Also bear in mind that you can open patchers inside of Bpatcher in presentation mode, just check the 'open in presentation' checkbox in the patcher inspector before you save and load into Bpatcher.

Well the trouble I am having with the checkboxes you mention is that they all show up in one but not the other pattrstorage object

Ill check out the other stuff... thanks

Ah yes, what you need to do is set your pattrstorage objects to subscribe mode in the inspector (1). You then send them messages to add objects individually, so if you connect your pattr to a dial and call it pattr dial2, send the message subscribe dial2

Hope that works,

Mark

Thanks - Using the bPatcher also works very well

silly me, didnt realize that the bPatcher everyone was talking about was an object and not just a nomenclature for a regular subpatch :)