vst instrument

themagicwoodshed's icon

hi everyone.
I've made a vst instrument in max msp 4.6 and was wondering if you needed to have max installed on your computer to use it as i wish to put it online as a free download.
thanks
lee

ADHD101's icon

I dont use any vsti

Charles Baker's icon

[quote]I've made a vst instrument in max msp 4.6[/quote]

hmmm, interesting, in that this is not *directly* possible in max msp.

What you made is a pluggo instr., or a standalone instr., not a vsti per se. Pluggos can be used as vsti (or au on mac), but the users will have to download the 4.6 pluggo runtime to use it in their DAWs, and Ableton Live 8 will not work with pluggo at all. Also, pay attention to the info about third party objects used in the pluggo or compiled app build!
if you wish a standalone compiled app:
You can save it as a collection/application (*not* vsti): this would mean all the user would have to have is the free max 4.6 runtime;
As long as the patch uses only standard max 4.6 objects, you will only have to use the menu to save as app. otherwise, you have to make sure your build has all third party object included in the build, by manually adding them to build. Really quite simple, although i didn't say very well, i hope you can decipher what I mean, ;-).
g'luck
cfb aka j2k

themagicwoodshed's icon

Hi
I now have max 5 and was wondering if anyone knew if you can change your standalone instruments created in max into vst.
thanks lee

Roman Thilenius's icon

1.
install maxmsp v. 460

2.
install latest pluggo runtime

4.
[pp] [plugmultiparam] [plugmorph] [plugsend~] [plugreceive] [plugin~] [plugout~] [plugconfig]

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Charles Baker's icon

Yes, as I understand it, Roman is correct.

in max/msp version 4.6 , you can use pluggo technology to build plugins, vst, rtas or au.

in max/msp/jitter version 5 , you cannot. you can build ableton live devices, but not vst or au.
many (not all) max5 patches can be reconstructed with max4.6, and then wrapped with pluggo. but it officially unsupported.
cb

Timo Rozendal's icon

you can convert max 5 patches to max 4 patches with supercollider using the maxpat class (http://www.fredrikolofsson.com/pages/code-sc.html)

please note that vsts made with pluggo will not work for ableton live users who also have max 4 live, this will crash the program on startup (at least on my mac)

Charles Baker's icon

In my experience ableton live 8 will not even get past plugin scan on startup if there are pluggo plugins in the vst/au path:
a hard freeze-up on my G5/10.5 box.