VST params command and parameter output somehow blocked


    May 22 2006 | 2:07 pm
    I have a very strange behaviour of vst~, I load a (pluggo) plugin, and
    want to retrieve parameters. For test purposes I even have attached a
    print directly to the fourth outlet. When sending get xx command I do
    get the expected output, but the command params doesn't put anything
    out. The strange thing is, it sometimes works and sometimes not! Very
    scary....
    Is there some known state where vst~ does not put out parameters? If I
    ask with "get 1" it will output, if I move a slider in the vst window it
    does not, if I send "params" it does not.
    I need it to work.
    The vst~ is inside a poly by the way.
    I just found the way to track it down:
    open the vst~ then choose a plugin, open the plugin window and move a
    control: no output from output 4 which should be visible in the help
    file window.
    This works if the number of voices is 1, but doesn't work for more voices.
    Expected result: it has to work for any number of voices.
    (I would load different VST's into the different voices by the way...)
    Stefan
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    • May 22 2006 | 2:50 pm
      not quite true
      if i open (message open 1) the 1st instance of poly, load a plug-in
      and move controls - it does not work
      but if i also open teh second instance of poly, choose a different
      (or the same) plug-in now each of them reports the params changes
      works with pluggo and with other plug-ins
      best
      kasper
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      Kasper T. Toeplitz
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    • May 22 2006 | 3:32 pm
      Thanks, so the bug isn't as bad as I thought, its not initialized
      correctly, I need to open and close the window of two instances... bizarre.
      Should be corrected, I don't want to open windows just for an
      initialisation...
      Stefan
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    • May 22 2006 | 3:56 pm
      can't you load the plug-ins by any other way???? I mean before you
      use it you'll have to tell you instancies of vst~'s which plug-ins to
      load (by some message) - i did not try it, but that should be enough..
      of course i don't know, but it does not seem to be a bug to me - if
      you laod a vst~ with no argument, sure it says it loads a "gain"
      thing, but maybe this is not a real plug, and the vst still waits to
      be "completed" to work...
      just guessing - but no one will use a vst~ just for gain.... (or maybe yes)
      best
      kasper
    • May 22 2006 | 9:56 pm
      when your pluggo s parameters only initialise
      correctly when the window is opened, then maybe
      you should change that before you try to host
      it differently?
      (or try recaling preset # 1 - maybe that is enough.
      but as you know, the patch has no possibilty to know
      when the loading has finished.)