VST params command and parameter output somehow blocked

    May 22 2006 | 2:07 pm
    I have a very strange behaviour of vst~, I load a (pluggo) plugin, and
    want to retrieve parameters. For test purposes I even have attached a
    print directly to the fourth outlet. When sending get xx command I do
    get the expected output, but the command params doesn't put anything
    out. The strange thing is, it sometimes works and sometimes not! Very
    Is there some known state where vst~ does not put out parameters? If I
    ask with "get 1" it will output, if I move a slider in the vst window it
    does not, if I send "params" it does not.
    I need it to work.
    The vst~ is inside a poly by the way.
    I just found the way to track it down:
    open the vst~ then choose a plugin, open the plugin window and move a
    control: no output from output 4 which should be visible in the help
    file window.
    This works if the number of voices is 1, but doesn't work for more voices.
    Expected result: it has to work for any number of voices.
    (I would load different VST's into the different voices by the way...)
    Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
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    • May 22 2006 | 2:50 pm
      not quite true
      if i open (message open 1) the 1st instance of poly, load a plug-in
      and move controls - it does not work
      but if i also open teh second instance of poly, choose a different
      (or the same) plug-in now each of them reports the params changes
      works with pluggo and with other plug-ins
      Kasper T. Toeplitz
      noise, composition, bass, computer
    • May 22 2006 | 3:32 pm
      Thanks, so the bug isn't as bad as I thought, its not initialized
      correctly, I need to open and close the window of two instances... bizarre.
      Should be corrected, I don't want to open windows just for an
      Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
      --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
      -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
    • May 22 2006 | 3:56 pm
      can't you load the plug-ins by any other way???? I mean before you
      use it you'll have to tell you instancies of vst~'s which plug-ins to
      load (by some message) - i did not try it, but that should be enough..
      of course i don't know, but it does not seem to be a bug to me - if
      you laod a vst~ with no argument, sure it says it loads a "gain"
      thing, but maybe this is not a real plug, and the vst still waits to
      be "completed" to work...
      just guessing - but no one will use a vst~ just for gain.... (or maybe yes)
    • May 22 2006 | 9:56 pm
      when your pluggo s parameters only initialise
      correctly when the window is opened, then maybe
      you should change that before you try to host
      it differently?
      (or try recaling preset # 1 - maybe that is enough.
      but as you know, the patch has no possibilty to know
      when the loading has finished.)