vst~ problem opening Silent Way 2

lesespejo's icon

I'm using Max/MSP to control my Analog Synth with OSC and Expert Sleepers 3, but for certain things is easier and faster to use Silent Way plug-ins. My problem is that vst~ object doesn't give me the option to choose an specific plug-in inside the SW2 suite it always opens the same plug-in and i can't change it.

Thank you in advance

antialias's icon

This works for me:

load silent way vst

send "printids" message to vst object

In the Max window you'll get something like:

vst~: SW Sync: 1163096934 (ESsf)
vst~: SW CV To MIDI: 1163096887 (ESs7)
vst~: SW LFO: 1163096882 (ESs2)
vst~: SW Follower: 1163096938 (ESsj)
vst~: SW ES-4 Controller: 1163096932 (ESsd)
vst~: SW Step LFO: 1163096886 (ESs6)
vst~: SW Voice Controller: 1163096929 (ESsa)
vst~: SW ESX-4CV Combiner: 1163096937 (ESsi)
vst~: SW SMUX: 1163096930 (ESsb)
vst~: SW CV To OSC: 1163096885 (ESs5)
vst~: SW DC: 1163096880 (ESs0)
vst~: SW ES-5 Controller: 1163096936 (ESsh)
vst~: SW AC Encoder: 1163096889 (ESs9)
vst~: SW CV Input: 1163096884 (ESs4)
vst~: SW Soundplane: 1163096940 (ESsl)
vst~: SW AC Encoder (6ch): 1163096872 (ESs()
vst~: SW Quantizer: 1163096888 (ESs8)
vst~: SW Trigger: 1163096941 (ESsm)
vst~: SW Learner: 1163096939 (ESsk)

send message "plug " to vst

i.e. message "plug 1163096929" (with no quotes) will prompt you to load Silent Way again, hit open,
Voice Controller window will be there.

HTH

roger.carruthers's icon

@AA,thanks for this workaround, but anyone from Cycling 74 know if this can be fixed?

I'm just getting started with trying to control my analogue synths from Max without a Midi/CV box, and was really chuffed to find the Expert Sleepers stuff, but then it's a bummer that it wont work in vst~ without this hack,
Cheers
Roger

Rick's icon
Max Patch
Copy patch and select New From Clipboard in Max.

Hey Roger try it this way. It's a bit smoother, less of a hack.

roger.carruthers's icon

Sweet - I'd assumed those codes were somehow system specific and I wanted to be able to use SW with a standalone, so this is much better thanks,
Cheers
Roger

Darwin Grosse's icon

Another option is to use the "subname" message to the vst~ object. Since Silent Way is a shell plug-in (similar to the Waves WaveShell plug-in set), stuff you find in the documentation that refers to WaveShell will also be useful for Silent Way.

Max Patch
Copy patch and select New From Clipboard in Max.

Here's a simple example:

Hope that helps!

(Note: I only tested this on the Mac OS/VST plug-in combo...)

[ddg]

nm's icon

Not sure if anyone will see this on this older thread, but I'm having problems running a shell plugin in Max 7, which I have to run some older works in.

I'm trying to run Blue Ripple Sound's Ambisonic plugins, specifically the "O3A Upmixer - Stereo".

Max7 only recognises the shell files, in this case it's O3AUpmixers. If I load this into a vst~ it automatically loads "O3A Upmixer - 5.1" - maybe 5.1 is first in the list.

If I try to use a specific subname nothing happens, no error messages either. If I use the message:
"plug O3AUpmixers 1073914072" (without quotations)
Nothing happens, or rather, it just loads in the 5.1 upmixer...
Same behaviour with other plugins in the O3A set.

Any thoughts on how to load specific plugins? Here is the printid list for this particular shell:

vst~: O3A Upmixer - Stereo: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - Cube: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Mono Ambience: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - Auro-3D 13.1: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - 7.1.2 (Dolby Atmos): -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - IMAX 12.0: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Injector - First Order: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - Auro-3D 11.1: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - 7.1: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - IMAX 6.0: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - Quad: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - Auro-3D 10.1: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - 6.1: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - IMAX 5.0: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Injector - N3D: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - Auro-3D 9.1: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - 5.1: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Stereo Ambience: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - Coincident Microphone: -1073902456 (?ገ)
vst~: O3A Upmixer - 22.2: -1073902456 (?ገ)