Waves VST Plug-Ins::

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Anyone knows how to integrate the Waves SSL4000 GChannel(s) in a Max Patch (vst~ ??)::

Can't find the Plugs in the VST Folder, Waves Folder or HD but all are present in Logic(AU) and Ableton(AU/VST)::

Tia!!
Simon

kjg's icon

if I recall correctly, Waves plugins are actually directX plugins installed somewhere on the system that are loaded through a file named something like waveshell.dll in the vstplugins folder.

Not sure if this makes it completely impossible to use them in Max or just slightly impossible

Hope this helps,

Best,

Klaas-Jan

Simon's icon

Hello Klaas Jan,

thx you are right with the Waveshell.dll. I contact Waves and ask the Tech Support::

Greetings from Cologne!
Simon

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.:: "Messing around with any of the Waves plug-ins in Max Patch it is impossible.

Best Regards,
Roman
Waves Tech-Support Team" ::.

sxa's icon

You can always try accessing the Waves plugins via the dx wrapper by xlutop.

Simon's icon

now i am back to max 5 and i see ~ integrating waveshells in max 5 is now very simple.

vst~ plug[open waveshell] and message subnames [" "] ... great all my wave bundles(gold, l3 and ssl4000) are working in max.

simon

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I'm trying to use my Waves reverb plugins in a MaxMSP patch as well.

I know I have to first open the "WaveShell-VST 7.0.vst", using the "plug" message to vst~. This works fine.
But then how do I now load the actual plugin? I tried sending messages vst~ with the name or the full path of the plugin, but that didn't work.

I'm using Max 5.1.5, OS X 10.6.4, Waves 7

Any hints would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
Alexandra

ChrisD's icon

Try this example patch it should have enough in it to get you going.
There are print objects in the patchers to echo the messaging look at the patchers carefully.

Main thing is the path of your waveshell plus the plugin ID code which needs to be supplied to the vst object. You get the codes from the printids message. The ID list used to come out of the 7th outlet but on my system that doesn't seem to be happening anymore. They will be in parenthesis in the Max Window for example:
vst~: C1 comp-gate Mono: 1129270605 (COMM)

Generally I get Waves to work with MSP but sometimes it is a bit temperamental.

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Hope this helps
Chris

Alexandra's icon

Thank you very much for that, exactly the explanation I was looking for!

jazzisfaction's icon

did meanwhile anybody find a solution how to save WaveShell presets within Max?

bdhm's icon

The Waves StudioRack Plugin Chainer can be the solution.

It is CPU hungry and graphic is slow but it works.
Pity, Waves doesn't support MAX/MSP as a PlugIn Host.

Best regards,
Boris

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Big thanks to Chris D. Using his example patch I was able to load a Waves v9.3 vst onto max.
On Mac (El Capitan) I had to change the waves version to the one I have.
On Windows I had to change the syntax for his two messages to "C/Program Files/VSTPlugIns/WaveShell-VST 9.2_x64.dll"
I then ran the print IDs object he has to find the plug I wanted to use, then replaced the messages he had in the guts patcher for the individual names.

Max 6
Lenovo Yoga Pro 2 Windows 8.1
Mac OS 10.10.11

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Thanks to all.
Is there a way to parse the IDs from the installed Waves Bundles? How it is do by the vst~ object, that send this infos only to the Max window.... I needed it coming out from an outlet to grab it.
Could be also a JS.
Thanx in advance.
Italo

In attachment my actual version.

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ChrisD's icon

I think you may be looking for something like this.
You just have to experiment a little bit with the messages to the waveshell via the vst object.

Chris

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keepsound's icon

Yess!! Great, thank you!!!!! This is a good solution. I think I'll fill a coll and sort the names alfabetically.

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Here the sorting solution

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Thank you for this!
This only seems to be working for the VST format, not for the AU format.

If I change the message to include my AU waveshells, any plug-in I select from the umenu only opens the first alphabetical option (Aphex Vintage Exciter).

Any idea how this might be handled?

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keepsound's icon

Click on the p Waveshell, and add AUpi to the opendialog. In this way opendialog reads also the AU waveshell, but this will redirect the waveshell to the same folder containig the waves plugs, and this is the same in case of VST or AU (and that doesn't mean that you are loading a VST or a AU.) Waves plugs are located in the Application/Waves Plug-Ins/[bundles] folder.