Web page in Max

hello list,

long time no see. a bit of off topicness: i really like new site, and forums
are cool. mail filters re-adjusted in few minutes. good work c74!

mr. bruno,

do you have jitter? if you do, you could use jit.desktop to capture window,
process it using standard jit objects(cropping for instance, or glueing),
export it to .jpg and put it on any ftp-enabled server using jit.uldl.
don't know about ms iss.

Thank you Nesa for your attention.
But put a JPG on my website is not what I asked :)

I'm asking if it's possible to put a Max interactive patch into my website.
I mean, when you open my webpage you should be able to interact with my Max-patch, without download it and without have MaxMSP Runtime installed in your computer.
I hope it is possible because on the server MaxMSP would be installed, so it would be an interaction between client and server... I hope :)

ps: yes, I have Jitter too (on the server I'm talkin'about)

Now wouldn't that be nice!!

But before we get a Max browser plugin, I'd like to see
1. a Max timeline with pattr integration
2. JavaScript capable of running in high priority
3. a contextual menu object
4. and wealth of new graphical objects, such as a menu capable of
displaying icons instead of just text.

But everybody's probably busy with the MacTel port.

Georg

And, why not, an "Undo" longer than the present one :-)

Mah, I really hoped about a max web-page. Sigh.

Installing the MaxMSP runtime isn't such a terrible
chore. It's only 4.5MB for Windows and 5.7MB for OSX.
The chores are:
- provide accurate platform requirements(sound
channels, peripherals, video capabilities, etc) and
step-by-step installation guide for each OS.
- making sure that the patch works (or fails
gracefully and informatively) for all possible
platforms, and with controllers the user has which may
be different from yours, and including every special
object used in a local folder, whether or not it's
provided with some versions of MaxMSP and not others.
- making sure that every peripheral connection in the
patch is editable (dynamic menu, text-editable coll,
etc) because the user can't edit the patch.
- making sure that every controlled item which is
controlled by an external controller also has a
slider, number box, dial or whatever, for users
without those peripherals.

VJs and DJs are accustomed to installing "players" for
datafiles built with a large number of applications.

If your patch is cool (and do show a JPG, MP3, and or
MPG or AVI by the way) then people will take the time
to install MaxMSP runtime to play with it and use it.

Amorphic Robot Works

Thank you Frank for the reply.
But, however, if client (people that want to see my webpage) has installed MaxMSP Runtime on his machine, he has to download my patch anyway if he wants to see and use it.
My question is: how can I do that my patch works on my website, without download it? Just through the browser, just with the mouse, just inside my webpage :)

I'm not saying you should, but you can build a server
running:
Max/MSP runtime
Apache
VNC server (with Java client enabled)
Set up the console to be logged in to a _very_
restricted account (no logout, no app open or close,
no window open or close, etc).
Apache serves the webpage containing the link to VNC's
Java client, which loads and runs in the user's
browser.
The VNC client shows the console running the Max/MSP
patch.
The user can click and slide things.
This allows many people to log into the same console
with only their browser, and mess with the same patch
in close to real-time, depending on your broadband
upload speed. A T1 or SDSL line is recommended. A VERY
fast computer is recommended.
Some versions of VNC offer sound streaming, though
other Javabased sound-streaming servers are also
available.
Jitter video out will likely NOT be visible to remote
users if the server's video hardware acceleration is
on.
If the server is PC-based, then VNC servers like
UltraVNC and TightVNC can run with a video hook driver
which really speeds up screen refreshes for things
like Max patches.

This is a lot of work for a rather restricted public
view of a not-really-realtime rendition of a Max
patch.

One distinct advantage of this approach is that your
local sensors (switches, video in, etc) will be seen
by Max in local realtime, even if the user sees/hears
the changes delayed.

Just my two cents.

> But put a JPG on my website is not what I asked :)

ah, ok:)

that should also be possible, with jitter and flash. it would be a bit
complicated to show max/msp application interface, but you could build
custom ui in flash, send users control data to max and back. max would
stream audio back to client computer. checkout max net objects, jitter+flash
tutorials, externals for streaming(was there oggcast~ object)...

hth,
nesa

At this time, you can't. Sorry.

jb