Whaaaaaat..........why would such a helpful forum contributor go through and delete all his posts?
Maybe he deleted his profile/membership, and that auto-deleted his posts. If that's the case, then that aspect of the forum *needs* to be fixed; current and future max-ers will be deprived of a lot of very useful material!
Also, I'm saddened that anyone would feel the need to leave in the first place. I don't think I know the surrounding situation, but it's very unfortunate no matter what happened.
As always with your big posts raja, there's a lot in there that I agree and disagree with.
One thing I feel compelled to say is this: As a 28 year old sophomore, I am so so so proud. My brain goes from off to on most days in a truly profound manner.
As a GED student, I thought I would never be capable of reading more than a short forum post or writing a max comment. I tormented myself but ultimately proved myself wrong. What a wonderful feeling.
There's a lot of anti college ideas out there. Not just from Fox News. Someone recently told me I was better off learning to weld than spend 4 years in college. "Academia is so isolated," seems like the most academic thing to say these days.
Screw it. I'm not proud of much. I am proud of being a student.
I have always thought of this forum as a mutually beneficial resource, for reciprocal learning. It is a great shame (or joy?) that raja had to endure such a fundamental epiphany, as he has contributed so much, in my opinion.
that's too bad, raja was a max wizard. seems he took these forums a bit too seriously tho :/ but if deleting all his posts and quitting the max forums will make him a happier person, then more power to him.
Many interesting points in Raja's post, some of which I agree with.
One issue that I can especially relate to is his point that he can't find many interesting projects done with Max. The reason why, I believe, is this: most interesting projects involve serious software engineering. But Max is not (yet?) geared towards serious software engineering.
Unlike Raja, I find Max very useful as a prototyping language and for educational purposes for many different reasons. I also believe it contains many concepts that are far ahead of time and that will be added to well-known programming environments in the future. But whenever I choose Max as a backbone for a heavy duty software project, I have to spend -a lot- of time working around the limitations and bugs that I encounter along the way.
I don't report many of the problems I encounter. Why not? The Cycling team consists of friendly, talented and motivated people and I believe there is a true intention to help everyone get along with Max, even people like me that work on what they experience to be unnecessarily complex patches. Why not help them and myself by reporting problems I run into?
The essential problem is that the company is just too small to provide an environment for 'serious' software development. There is no time to investigate or reply to any other report than simple reproducible bugs in simple patches. There is no time to maintain a list of which bugs have been reported but not yet solved. There is simply not the time for the development team themselves to actually use Max as a programming language for more than simple patches, so there is no hands-on experience with the limitations that occur when patches get as large as they get when creating an application that involves a serious amount of time, money and maybe even revenue.
This is all fine. I don't expect Cycling '74 to do anything more than they already do. Max is a great accomplishment and I have great respect for the people developing it. But for projects that really aim for a next level, use Max as a prototyping environment and then switch to C++. And if you are in a luxurious position, please take the time to report at least the simple bugs and limitations you come across. This is what I learned after squeezing pretty much everything out of Max that is humanly possible.
Hey, if you gotta go, you gotta go. I recommend rock climbing as an excellent antidote to online forum angst - as a friend put it, there's nothing quite like your hind-brain being afraid for your life on a regular basis to put things in perspective.
I'll miss your posts. Good luck and plain sailing!