Hi, This is driving me bonkers--I hope someone can help. This just started today--been fine up 'til now: if I create a zl object, for example, "zl scramble" in a patch, it first appears normal--it has inlets/outlets, it functions, etc., but after saving the patch, quitting and re-opening it, suddenly the zl object has no inlets or outlets! In fact, if I simply make a new empty patch, plop a "zl scramble" object in there with nothing else in the patch whatsoever, the same thing happens--when i open it back up after saving and quitting/restarting Max--boom, no inlets or outlets. A large patch I've been working on for weeks that has a few zl objects in it opens fine. But, if I "save as" that patch with a new name, again the zl objects all lose their inlets/outlets. I've restarted my machine several times--no luck. I'm using Max 6.1.3, on Mac OS 10.6.8

I don't know if it'll help, but here's said patch with nothing but a "zl scramble" in it. You'll see it has no connectivity:

Anybody have any ideas?