Doug Ess

I'm encountering some weird behavior when it comes to the “Parameter Mode Enable” property for certain objects in Max For Live (Live 10 running Max 8.0.1). I’ve tried on two different Macs running El Capitan (

I can consistently recreate the issue by doing the following:

(3) Open the inspector for that object and enable the “Parameter Mode Enable” property.

(4) Disable the “Parameter Mode Enable” property.

As soon as I disable the property, Max will immediately crash on my Macbook Pro, or it will become unresponsive on my Mac Mini. It will also die if I enable that property on more than one object in the patch.

This isn’t just occurring for Number objects. I first ran into this issue when I was trying to store dictionary data within a Live set via pattrstorage.

I'm encountering some weird behavior when it comes to the “Parameter Mode Enable” property for certain objects in Max For Live (Live 10 running Max 8.0.1). I’ve tried on two different Macs running El Capitan (I know) and they both have the same issue.

(1) Create a new MIDI Effect Device.
(2) Add a number object.
(3) Open the inspector for that object and enable the “Parameter Mode Enable” property.
(4) Disable the “Parameter Mode Enable” property.

Has anyone else encountered this before? 

I'm encountering some weird behavior when it comes to the “Parameter Mode Enable” property for certain objects in Max For Live (Live 10 runn

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I have reported this issue to Cycling'74 support about a week ago. They are trying to fix it.

Ah, good to know. I was convinced I had done something wrong until I tried it on a different machine and got a similar result. Thanks for the reply!

Ah, good to know.  I was convinced I had done something wrong until I tried it on a different machine and got a similar result.  Thanks for the reply!

I'm using Dict a lot and this has been a show stopper. Here it crashes at step (3) i.e. when enabling Parameter Mode.

I just discovered a workaround that seems to be okay so far:

1. Encapsulate the object but do not connect it to anything e.g. inlets, outlets etc. 

I just discovered a workaround that seems to be okay so far:
1. Encapsulate the object but do not connect it to anything e.g. inlets, outlets etc. 
2. Set the Parameter Mode property.
3. De-encapsulate.

Nope, still crashing. Prevention could be related to saving the project after creating the object (before changing the property) and possibly also in combination with encapsulation. Too busy to explore further atm.

i have the same issue here with object using parameter enable and dynamic load using sprintf.

I have posted about it today, and i think it s related to the same problem on this thread.

delete this device , or try to save. Ableton will crashes instantly. Saving after load of the first device will help, but then it will occur again with other devices using the same routine. 

This is really problematic. Reported to ableton today, but also two weeks ago with another problem also related to parameter enable.

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I have posted about it today, and i think it s related to the same problem on this thread.
Open live
load this device on a track
add another device somewhere else.
then either way
delete this device , or try to save.  Ableton will crashes instantly. Saving after load of the first device will help, but then it will occur again with other devices using the same routine. 
This is really problematic. Reported to ableton today, but also two weeks ago with another problem also related to parameter enable.


"Parameter Mode Enable" crashing Max For Live.