Mark

i'm trying to open a "new view of embedded patcher" but the window is not opening. it appears down in the task-bar, but when i click on it i see it flying outside the limits of the screen. this is not happening to other bpatchers i'm using, just to an embedded M4L.chooser. it seems like a bug that sets it's location outside the screen limits. if i click "new patcher with contents of embedded patcher"

i'm trying to open a "new view of embedded patcher" but the window is not opening. it appears down in the task-bar, but when i click on it i see it flying outside the limits of the screen. this is not happening to other bpatchers i'm using, just to an embedded M4L.chooser. it seems like a bug that sets it's location outside the screen limits. if i click "new patcher with contents of embedded patcher"
it opens properly.


i'm trying to open a "new view of embedded patcher" but the window is not opening. it appears down in the task-bar, but when i click on it i

«bpatcher»-"new-view"-not-opening

it has occurred to me again with a different Bpatcher.

i am working in maxforlive but i don't know if it is relevant to the problem. 

i have a bpatcher in a maxforlive device, everything is working fine, i save the M4L device with the embeded Bpatcher, i save the Live set. when i re-open the Set and the M4L device, i try to open a "new view of embedded patcher" but it doesn't appear. however the borders of the max window (of the patcher in which the Bpatcher is embedded) become greyed out, indicating that it is not in the front anymore. the bpatcher is visible in the taskbar but when i click on it doesn't appear, and just greys out the borders of the parent patch again.

if i open a "new patcher with contents of embedded patcher" and save it, replace it, re-connect all the cables, re-embed it and save everything again, it is working fine.

so i assume it is not a problem of the contents of the bpatcher itself, but perhaps some error when saving embedded bpatchers?

it has occurred to me again with a different Bpatcher.
i am working in maxforlive but i don't know if it is relevant to the problem. 
i have a bpatcher in a maxforlive device, everything is working fine, i save the M4L device with the embeded Bpatcher, i save the Live set. when i re-open the Set and the M4L device, i try to open a "new view of embedded patcher" but it doesn't appear.  however the borders of the max window (of the patcher in which the Bpatcher is embedded) become greyed out, indicating that it is not in the front anymore. the bpatcher is visible in the taskbar but when i click on it doesn't appear, and just greys out the borders of the parent patch again.
if i open a "new patcher with contents of embedded patcher" and save it, replace it, re-connect all the cables, re-embed it and save everything again, it is working fine.
so i assume it is not a problem of the contents of the bpatcher itself, but perhaps some error when saving embedded bpatchers?


so, if i save my maxforlive device while an embedded [bpatcher] is open, the bpatcher that was open will not be able to open again by choosing "open new view of embedded bpatcher".

i will check to see if this also happens on an empty M4L device with just an embedded bpatcher. 

ok, i have found the bug.
so, if i save my maxforlive device while an embedded [bpatcher] is open, the bpatcher that was open will not be able to open again by choosing "open new view of embedded bpatcher".
i will check to see if this also happens on an empty M4L device with just an embedded bpatcher. 


- Create a new bpatcher near the one that doesn't open

- Open "New view" of the fresh made bpatcher

- Give it a Title from patcher inspector (any title is okay)

- Save the patch (with a different name if you want)

- Open the patch.maxpat via notepad / text editor and search for the new bpatcher's title

- Copy the rect [ ] content and paste it as rect [ ] value of the broken bpatcher.

- Create a new bpatcher near the one that doesn't open
- Open "New view" of the fresh made bpatcher
- Give it a Title from patcher inspector (any title is okay)
- Save and close it
- Save the patch (with a different name if you want)
- Open the patch.maxpat via notepad / text editor and search for the new bpatcher's title
- You'll find window coords in rect [ ]
- Copy the rect [ ] content and paste it as rect [ ] value of the broken bpatcher.

[Bpatcher] "new view" not opening